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Telegraph ^ | 3/19/07 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 03/19/2007 8:34:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Roger Highfield describes a heroic mathematical enterprise that could lay bare the fundamentals of the cosmos

Mathematicians have successfully scaled their equivalent of Mount Everest. Today they unveil the answer to a problem that, if written out in tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

At the most basic level, the calculation is an arcane investigation of symmetry – in this case of an object that is 57 dimensional, rather than the usual three dimensional ones that we are familiar with. Although this object was first discovered in the 19th century. there is evidence that it could contain the structure of the cosmos.

Mathematicians are known for their solitary style of working, but the combined assault on what is described as "one of the largest and most complicated structures in mathematics" required the effort of 18 mathematicians from America and Europe for an intensive four-year collaboration.

The feat may baffle most people but could have unforeseen implications in mathematics and physics, which won’t be evident for years to come, said the American Institute of Mathematics.

"The group of symmetries of this strange geometry called E8 is one of the most intriguing structures that Nature has left for the mathematician to play with," commened Prof Marcus du Sautoy of Oxford University, currently in Auckland. "Most of the time mathematical objects fit into nice patterns that we can order and classify. But this one just sits there like a huge Everest." advertisement

What makes this group of symmetries so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8. I find it rather extraordinary that of all the symmetries that mathematician’s have discovered, it is this exotic exceptional object that Nature has used to build the fabric of the universe. The symmetries are so intricate and complex that today’s announcement of the complete mapping of E8 is a significant moment in our exploration of symmetry."

For the feat, the team used a mix of theoretical mathematics and intricate computer programming to successfully map E8, (pronounced "E eight") which is an example of a Lie (pronounced "Lee") group. Lie groups were invented by the 19th century Norwegian mathematician Sophus Lie to study symmetry.

Underlying any symmetrical object, such as a sphere, is a Lie group. Balls, cylinders or cones are familiar examples of symmetric three-dimensional objects. Today’s feat rests on the drive by mathematicians to study symmetries in higher dimensions. E8 is the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-dimensional. E8 itself is 248-dimensional.

"E8 was discovered over a century ago, in 1887, and until now, no one thought the structure could ever be understood," said Prof Jeffrey Adams, Project Leader, at the University of Maryland. "This groundbreaking achievement is significant both as an advance in basic knowledge, as well as a major advance in the use of large scale computing to solve complicated mathematical problems."

"This is an exciting breakthrough," said Prof Peter Sarnak at Princeton University. "Understanding and classifying the representations of E8 and Lie groups has been critical to understanding phenomena in many different areas of mathematics and science including algebra, geometry, number theory, physics and chemistry. This project will be invaluable for future mathematicians and scientists."

The ways that E8 manifests itself as a symmetry group are called representations. The goal is to describe all the possible representations of E8. These representations are extremely complicated, but mathematicians describe them in terms of basic building blocks. The new result is a complete list of these building blocks for the representations of E8, and a precise description of the relations between them, all encoded in a matrix, or grid, with 453,060 rows and columns. There are 205,263,363,600 entries in all, each a mathematical expression called a polynomial. If each entry was written in a one inch square, then the entire matrix would measure more than seven miles on each side.

The result of the E8 calculation, which contains all the information about E8 and its representations, is 60 gigabytes in size. This is enough to store 45 days of continuous music in MP3-format. If written out on paper, the answer would cover an area the size of Manhattan. The computation required sophisticated new mathematical techniques and computing power not available even a few years ago.

"This is an impressive achievement," said Hermann Nicolai, Director of the Albert Einstein Institute in Potsdam, Germany. "While mathematicians have known for a long time about the beauty and the uniqueness of E8, we physicists have come to appreciate its exceptional role only more recently - yet, in our attempts to unify gravity with the other fundamental forces into a consistent theory of quantum gravity, we now encounter it at almost every corner," he said, referring to efforts to combine the theory of the very big (general relativity) with the very small (quantum mechanics). "Thus, understanding the inner workings of E8 is not only a great advance for pure mathematics, but may also help physicists in their quest for a unified theory."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: e8; fabric; group; lie; liegroup; mathematics; physics; stringtheory; symmetry; universe
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To: LibWhacker

"On the Moon, we have five thousand dimensions. Don't question it!"

61 posted on 03/20/2007 8:49:55 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: LibWhacker

Dangblastit!


I mispronounced it.


62 posted on 03/20/2007 8:52:00 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

You limit God to only three dimensions?


63 posted on 03/20/2007 8:53:59 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: MHGinTN

My sentiments too.

It's like opening a gift from the Master and getting a surprise.


64 posted on 03/20/2007 8:55:16 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: LibWhacker

65 posted on 03/20/2007 8:59:00 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: jatopilot99
Personally, I think the fabric of the universe is based on Palindromes.

Blessed are they that believe that they are blessed.

66 posted on 03/20/2007 8:59:09 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: LibWhacker

Are you are (un)excited over this as I am?


67 posted on 03/20/2007 9:00:35 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: LibWhacker

Finally something that makes sense around here. :-)


68 posted on 03/20/2007 9:01:40 AM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: LibWhacker
You can file this away in the same govt Ark warehouse where the other 2000 mathematical breakthroughs are stored.

There's a new one discovered every week now.

It's a good thing that our surroundings are real and NOT a math model. Otherwise evolution would have never happened.

Give me a break.


BUMP

69 posted on 03/20/2007 9:08:28 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: LibWhacker

Somewhere, at the end of the E8 calculation, I am sure the answer ultimately = 42.


70 posted on 03/20/2007 9:10:23 AM PDT by Miles the Slasher
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To: LibWhacker

ROTFL - thanks for the laugh, LW. I needed that.


71 posted on 03/20/2007 9:14:35 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I have a big carbon footprint and I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: dayglored
Well said.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

72 posted on 03/20/2007 9:29:42 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: spunkets

/brain exploding


73 posted on 03/20/2007 9:46:24 AM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: capitalist229
You can file this away in the same govt Ark warehouse where the other 2000 mathematical breakthroughs are stored.

You are partly correct. There happens a lot in the world mathematics and, only seldomly, the general public will get informed - and even less frequently, it will be excited (Can't remember the last time that happenend...)

Whether there is any "use" for the ideas in the "real world" is to be seen - but even if not: it's a great task and at least a brilliant work of art.

74 posted on 03/20/2007 9:57:53 AM PDT by si tacuissem (sapere aude!)
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To: spunkets

Is that you, Michio?


75 posted on 03/20/2007 10:09:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: LibWhacker
structures that Nature has left for the mathematician to play with

Nature doesn't leave structures, mathematicians create them. This is nearly pure cartesianism, modernism. Even art left this stuff behind a century ago.

76 posted on 03/20/2007 10:14:02 AM PDT by RightWhale (Treaty rules;commerce droolz)
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To: ThomasThomas

I have read a great deal about St. Feynman and his life. Unquestionably a brilliant scientist...who was occasionally wrong. However, like many gifted people, he had quite the ego and seldom admitted mistakes.


77 posted on 03/20/2007 10:48:25 AM PDT by darth
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To: myprecious

I once gave a talk using a large poster that a graphics friend made for me of one of the Hubble photos. Mentioned that it was something like .01% of the universe and showed at least 10,000 different galaxies. (I forget the actual numbers - but it was something unbelievable like that).

I mentioned how in the Psalms and elsewhere God's power is discussed in terms of "who created the Heavens" and the countless stars in the sky, etc. And to me, the more we discover about the Universe, the "rules", etc. - it just makes me more awed by the power of the Creator. (And - if the article can use "Nature" - with a captial "N", I figure I can use a capital "C"!)


78 posted on 03/20/2007 11:08:28 AM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: MHGinTN
"Is that you, Michio?"

No, just old spunkets.

79 posted on 03/20/2007 12:03:16 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: geopyg
at least 10,000 different galaxies

And yet He knows your small voice. Wow.

80 posted on 03/20/2007 1:33:49 PM PDT by myprecious
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