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What Would FReepers Do? A Question to the Forum.
RFace's Life ^ | 3.17.2007 | RFace

Posted on 03/17/2007 1:44:41 PM PDT by rface

I now know what I am going to do – But I am curious as to what other FReepers might do when faced with this situation.

What will I do?? (I know what I am going to do.)

I have a cousin whom I love, and with whom I am close. I grew up with this guy. We are both in our middle 40s. We both have gone through our teen-age years with some trouble along the way – and we both now hold good jobs. We both have done pretty well – in spite of our earlier attempts at self-destruction…..and in spite of some heavy burdens that life has thrown our way.

I was married a few months ago (my 2nd…and my last) and I invited my cousin and his “significant other” to our wedding. They flew in from Boston and my wife and I were very happy to have them here to be at our wedding.

I am very close to my cousin. I also like, and get along with, his “significant other”. My Cousin and I don’t see eye-to-eye on some things, but he did vote for Bush in 2000. And we agree on a lot of taxation and financial conservative views. He’s pretty much conservative-ish….sort of…(not that his politics has anything to do with this issue) ….except that he’s gay and he sent me a wedding invitation for me and my wife to come to the wedding in Massachusetts.

My Cousin knows where I stand on the Gay Marriage issue…. And my wife shares my view. Our views are not secretly held. We both think a Marriage is between a man and woman – but we both also think “civil unions” may be an option that Gay couples should be able to utilize.

The Question: Would you go to a family members Gay Wedding under a situation like this??


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KEYWORDS: gay; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; perverts; sendmyregrets; thanksbutno; theanswerisno
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To: rface
Would you attend if he were to marry an English Sheepdog? What if he were to marry a horse?

I really can't tell you what I would do in your situation. I would be pretty divided. I recommend prayer and fasting before deciding.
281 posted on 03/18/2007 1:12:59 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: FixedandDilated
I've been to a biker bar. But I don't think it was a gay biker bar. It was in Boise, Idaho, and my car had broken down, I needed to find a phone, and there wasn't anyplace else in sight that looked like there was a pay phone around. This was a very long time ago, long before I'd gotten a cell phone. It was disappointingly a non-issue to be in a biker bar. :D

LOL! Actually I have known many nice bikers. Some are A-holes, but then again I have met many a guy in a suit that is as well.

True story. When I was at JPL, we had a biker who used to work there. Rode a chopped Harley, beard down to his tummy (which overflowed his belt), leather vest, tattoos, the whole gambit. Had his PhD from Caltech and was one of our spacecraft trajectory scientists. Hell of a nice guy too.

282 posted on 03/18/2007 1:15:12 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: hosepipe

You said, "Marriage should be about children"...

I say, nonsense...what you say, is complete nonsense, to those who cannot have children, or do not want to have children, yet still want to marry..


283 posted on 03/18/2007 1:16:04 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: rface
anyways....I only am going into this because of my cousin, as I have stated.

I am very glad you are. Have fun and celibrate his joy.

GOOD ON YA!! :-)

284 posted on 03/18/2007 1:16:47 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
GOOD ON YA!! :-)

I am not THAT happy about it....but I will make the best of it.

285 posted on 03/18/2007 1:18:50 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface

I understand. :-)

I still say good on ya for going.

Family is familiy.


286 posted on 03/18/2007 1:21:48 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: rface

A Freeper would politely refuse the invitation.
Offer no excuses.

Pray for his soul.


287 posted on 03/18/2007 1:28:15 PM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
A Freeper would politely refuse the invitation.

Nope, not this one. (nor many others from reading this thread)

288 posted on 03/18/2007 1:31:23 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: andysandmikesmom
[.. I say, nonsense...what you say, is complete nonsense, to those who cannot have children, or do not want to have children, yet still want to marry.. ..]

Civil Union is one thing marriage is and should be another..
Marriage gives legal recourse to children.. to its parents..
Civil Union gives legal recourse to corporate partners.

289 posted on 03/18/2007 1:39:11 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: RadioAstronomer

rface stated "My Cousin knows where I stand on the Gay Marriage issue…. And my wife shares my view. Our views are not secretly held." You apparently don't have such views. rface does.

To attending this party for homosexuals that mocks a religious sacrament, he would be giving in to political correctness at the sacrafice of his principles.

Sort of like Bush-41 raising taxes.

Your principles are yours.
No one can take them from you.
You can, however, give them away.


290 posted on 03/18/2007 1:43:38 PM PDT by kidd
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To: rface

There are weird gay people and there are weird straight people...weirdness strikes everywhere..

When my mom became ill, my dad was going to take her to a neurologist, as suggested by the GP, as he thought she had Parkinsons...now my parents lived in a rather small town, and rural area, and the only neurologist was gay...some busybody neighbor 'warned' my dad about this, hinting that not only was he gay, he was not a good doctor...it was almost as if with her, it was a given, that because a doctor is 'gay', he is not a good doctor...but this busybody, recommended another neurologist, a good, straight neurologist, so she said, in another town, about an hours drive away...

So my dad decided to drive an hour or so south down the freeway, to a bigger area, to find this recommended neurologist, who diagnosed my mom with Parkinsons...mom was put on meds, and this doc reviewed her case from time to time..

When my dad got sick with cancer, I had to take over care for my mom, and him as well...when I began to really read up about Parkinsons, and now having to live with my mother and observing her first hand, I came to the realization, that I thought my mom had been misdiagnosed...her symptoms did not really match up, with what I was reading, and the meds this neurologist had my mom on, seemed to be of no value whatsoever...

I took her back down to this 'straight' neurologist, voiced my concerns, and asked him to reconsider his diagnosis of my mom...he did as I asked, but still came up with the same diagnosis..I was really quite dissatisfied...

So I took my mom to the 'gay' neurologist, who upon two worksups on my mom, was adamant, that this 'straight' neurologist had misdiagnosed my mom...thing was, this 'gay' neurologist, was actually in the middle of making a move to a big city, NYC...but he made his initial exam of my mom, and assured me that another neurologist would be taking over...I must add here, that the 'gay' neurologist had his partner, working as the receptionist...for those who claim that they have 'gaydar', I would challenge any one of them to meet this doctor anywhere, and I assure you, one would never guess he was gay..his partner on the other hand, was very effeminate, and one would at least be suspicious, that he was gay...on the other hand, this receptionist, was a very sweet and caring man, who put the patients at complete ease in the waiting room, and was really especially kind to my mom, which I appreciated...

Now it was time to see a third neurologist(gay or straight I do not know), who also agreed, that my mom did not have Parkinsons as the first 'straight' neurologist had originally said...

My dad died shortly after this, and then I brought my mom to live with me in a different state, and the whole hunt began again, for another neurologist...found quite a fine one(whether gay or straight, I dont know, and dont care)...he examined my mom quite thoroughly, and again, as the second and third neurologists said, this first neurologist was completely wrong in his diagnosis of my mom...

My mom did not have Parkinsons at all, she had Alzheimers, or some other similar dementia...

My point of this rather long, probably boring story, is that unfortunately, in an attempt to find my mom good medical care, my dad allowed himself to be influenced by a busy-body, know nothing, sanctimonious neighbor, who just felt it her 'duty' to 'warn' my dad about the dangers and evils of taking my mom to a 'gay' neurologist, because first off he was gay(how horrid), and secondly she seemed to intimate that because he was gay, he was also a second rate doctor...well, the 'straight' neurologist that my dad saw instead, was the second rate doctor, perhaps even a third rate doctor...but according to this neighbor, he was a fine doctor, because he was straight...

Go to your cousins wedding...if you and he have been close all of your lives, I feel you will regret it for years to come, if you do not go..


291 posted on 03/18/2007 1:53:45 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: hosepipe

You said, "Civil Union is one thing marriage is and should be another"

Just what is it that you are saying here?...are you saying that those who cannot or will not have children, should just get a Civil Union, as you call it, before a justice of the Peace, or a judge, and that only those who plan to have children should have a religious ceremony for their marriage?

I am unclear what you mean here...if what I posted is a correct interpretation of what you are saying, again, I call it for what it is...nonsense..

If on the other hand, you mean something else entirely, what would that be?


292 posted on 03/18/2007 2:00:26 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom

my cousin says he has "gaydar". I believe him


293 posted on 03/18/2007 2:02:07 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: andysandmikesmom
not that it is any of my business.....

.....but you are being sucked into an argument that will only piss you off. An argument that will have no winner. An argument that will never end.

I agree with you .... I am going to eat some ice cream. Want some?

294 posted on 03/18/2007 2:07:57 PM PDT by rface ("...the most schizoid freeper I've ever seen" - New Bloomfield, Missouri)
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To: rface

Of course it is your business...anything on this thread is fair game for anyone else to comment about...

Your point is extremely well taken, and I do agree with you about it...however, discussing it, even tho it will be a disagreement that will have no winner, and the disagreement will go on, and on, still I think it informative and quite enlightening, to find out the views of others on this forum...

And yes, ice cream would be delightful..


295 posted on 03/18/2007 2:18:43 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: kidd
To attending this party for homosexuals that mocks a religious sacrament, he would be giving in to political correctness at the sacrafice of his principles.

How does this mock a religious sacrament?

And since you don't know me, don't even presume to lecture me on priciples.

296 posted on 03/18/2007 2:37:19 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Not one ever got in my face, tried to get suggestive or even overtly pushed their lifestyle. It was just billiards and drinks. Not a place I went back to, but in all honesty, I was not, nor am I upset I ended up there and I don't have a gay bone in my body.

Hey, not a problem by me. Sadly, I've had very bad experiences with them not behaving.

One incident we were having a conservation with a trio across another table one night. They had a bit too much too drink. We were compelled to ignore them after they got drunk and began showboating their homosexuality. The owner of the vinyard asked them to stop immediately or leave. They had asked us to get them to quiet them down - we didn't know them! We responded "YOU SAT THEM NEXT TO US!"

They didn't charge us for a single drink that night.

297 posted on 03/18/2007 3:03:56 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

I too have seen and experienced bad behavior. The activists I cannot stand.


298 posted on 03/18/2007 3:11:05 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: rface

I would go - no question in my mind.


299 posted on 03/18/2007 3:29:27 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: rface

NO, a wedding is not necessary. Live with the person and quit trying to make it okay. It is not.


300 posted on 03/18/2007 3:33:09 PM PDT by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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