Posted on 03/12/2007 6:35:53 AM PDT by sdnet
Political maverick and Texas House member Ron Paul formally announced his candidacy for the president of the United States this morning during the “Washington Journal” call-in program on C-SPAN.
Paul stands as one of the last remaining believers in strict enforcement of the Constitution and a limited federal government in Washington D.C. Paul ran unsuccessfully for the White House in 1988 under the Libertarian ticket, but now caucuses with the Republican Party. His political platform includes low taxes, individual liberties and a principled belief in the right to life.
His presidential exploratory committee formed earlier this year stirred up his enormous grassroots support from heartland voters, small government believers and fed-up Republicans who believe current GOP candidates offer no real solutions to an expanding federal government and refuse to tackle America's important issues, such as illegal immigration and an erosion of American's civil liberties.
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Well, since you said matches perfectly, I suppose you have a few example. Googling American Bund, I can't find a single position that they hold in common. Please cite 3 for me, thanks.
Good grief. After reading a lot of what some people here have to say, it's becoming more clear why candidates like him never win presidential elections. Many here would rather throw one-liners than really consider the issues. Many here simply don't care to know the issues.
The future of our nation is much too important, and much too at-risk, to rationalize away with one-liners.
God help us.
So how did he pay his living expenses between 1998 and now?
The beauty of the internet is that you can claim to be anything.
This statement is similar to another poster who claimed to have a 170 IQ. That poster is now history, and an internet laughingstock. May the future treat you better.
Gee. I thought you already stayed home. You guys have been staying home since 1980 when the LP pulled its best numbers against Reagan when the usual LP folks came together with the low-tax liberals to break the 1% barrier.
No, not at all. Believe it or not, Libertarians don't vote party any more than do Democrats or Republicans. Smart guy like you could probably figure that out.
What I really don't understand is that you think that you benefit somehow from this strategy. Follow me on this: You stay home. By staying home, you ensure that your political polar opposite takes office. This somehow pleases you. Then, when the next election comes 'round, you threaten again to withhold support because of the insufficient purity of your allies' views or performance in office.
The Country survived LBJ's Great Society. The country survived the Carter Administration. The country survived the Clinton Administration. Hell, the country survived four terms of FDR. It will survive President Hitlery.
In the interim, the Republican Party learns not to p!$$ off it's conservative base. Painful lesson? Certainly. Often a needed one though.
What i've never really understood is the inconsistency in the Republican Party. The Libertarians and other independent-minded voters are derided as "Looserdopertarians" by the Republican party Koolaid Drinkers, when there is no election, yet seen as the Antichrist incarnate every two years.
We got the blame for the fact that the Republicans screwed the pooch...as if we Libertarians owed any damned thing to the Republicans...especially our vote.
As i said before, p!$$ us off, and get used to being a minority party. That is now demonstated fact.
But if they aren't sufficiently pure, do you not think that you will be hurt most by the election of your political polar opposite?
Those of us who are not Libertarian in name only, walk the walk. That is to say that we're not dependent on the Government for our daily needs. Damage to us is minimal. We look out for our own security. We earn our own living. We don't depend on the state to look after our family well being, and live our lives.
In short:
We don't need you and the lying, sociopathic bastards that are foisted upon the American Electorate every four years.
Dang, there are all sorts of flavors of conservatives at this forum demanding not to be pissed off at our peril.
First Google hit, same propganda:
"an organization espousing to be '100% American.' They professed to be for "Constitution, flag, limited government, and a truly free America that should not interfere with the affairs of other nations."
Sounds great, huh? Loves puppies, too, huh!
Of course, it's the same isolatioist B.S., that always at the expense of other free nations and one peoples, in particular, be they in low countries or down range from Lebanon.
Apparently they were right. The 2k6 elections showed that.
"So how did he pay his living expenses between 1998 and now?"
Sucking off the teat of taxpayers.
OK, fair enough, but, to use the term bund comes pretty close to Godwining the thread. Now, that' just my opinion, and we have had this conversation before, but I don't think it does anyone any good to overstate a case.
And all conservatives lost.
Thanks bunches.
was that a blip I saw?
OK. So you acknowledge then that your previous statement that he perennially runs for president to pay his bills (or whatever phrase you used) is incorrect since he has not in fact run for president since 1988?
Yes and no.
He's going to lose his office in Texas; ergo he's running for president so as to have some money, taken in from suckers.
That's my point.
No one takes him seriously but the Dungeons & Dragons wing of the Republican party and the Pat Buchnon types.
He's just like Dennis Kucinich in this regard.
Blame the Republican Party for abandoning it's base voters. The Libertarians and other independents didn't owe the Republican candidates any damned thing...especially not our votes.
Funny, they keep blaming the Independent, and doing the name calling, and then expect us to lovingly embrace their candidates.
They can go to hell and wait.
The Republicans don't owe the Libertarians anything, either.
I consistently score as a libertarian Republican on all political tests I've taken, but I'm not snotty enough to think that my philosophy is the political base or that withholding my vote for the best (or least worst) candidate on the ballot was in my best interest.
Obviously your mileage varies, but there is absolutely no reason why anyone should capitulate to your threats and demands.
If your candidate can't make the case and win on the merits, that should tell you something. Your threatened temper tantrum helps who, exactly? Conservatives? You?
Or maybe you really wanted Hillary elected all along.
Yes, that obscure flavor that doesn't want the GOP being bigger spenders than LBJ was.
Pick your #1 issue. There's a flavor of conservative who votes on that issue only.
I have no problem with fiscal conservatives. I think I'd indentify myself as that flavor if I had to choose.
You have to be broader than that to win a general election. When one segment demands that their candidate be elected or they won't support any conservative candidate, then we're in trouble.
But that doesn't mean we submit to blackmail.
The conservative movement is too broad for a threat on FR to mean anything, anyway.
Well look, I agree with you.. what you wrote. But the probem is that mainstram GOP is not the slightest bit conservative anymore. We are not talking about abandoning the GOP just for guns, or just for abortion, or just for whatever. We are talking about the basic philosophy that government is the problem, not the solution. The GOP just doesn't believe that anymore.
That's nonsense. Anyone can run, and the GOP isn't funding anyone in the primaries.
Anyone with any philosophy can be a candidate. It doesn't matter "what the GOP believes" or doesn't believe.
This forum is making the GOP organization the boogeyman, when it's simply a failure to have many good or great candidates step up.
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