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To: AmishDude; OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush
Just because I'm smarter than you...

The beauty of the internet is that you can claim to be anything.

This statement is similar to another poster who claimed to have a 170 IQ. That poster is now history, and an internet laughingstock. May the future treat you better.

Gee. I thought you already stayed home. You guys have been staying home since 1980 when the LP pulled its best numbers against Reagan when the usual LP folks came together with the low-tax liberals to break the 1% barrier.

No, not at all. Believe it or not, Libertarians don't vote party any more than do Democrats or Republicans. Smart guy like you could probably figure that out.

What I really don't understand is that you think that you benefit somehow from this strategy. Follow me on this: You stay home. By staying home, you ensure that your political polar opposite takes office. This somehow pleases you. Then, when the next election comes 'round, you threaten again to withhold support because of the insufficient purity of your allies' views or performance in office.

The Country survived LBJ's Great Society. The country survived the Carter Administration. The country survived the Clinton Administration. Hell, the country survived four terms of FDR. It will survive President Hitlery.

In the interim, the Republican Party learns not to p!$$ off it's conservative base. Painful lesson? Certainly. Often a needed one though.

What i've never really understood is the inconsistency in the Republican Party. The Libertarians and other independent-minded voters are derided as "Looserdopertarians" by the Republican party Koolaid Drinkers, when there is no election, yet seen as the Antichrist incarnate every two years.

We got the blame for the fact that the Republicans screwed the pooch...as if we Libertarians owed any damned thing to the Republicans...especially our vote.

As i said before, p!$$ us off, and get used to being a minority party. That is now demonstated fact.

But if they aren't sufficiently pure, do you not think that you will be hurt most by the election of your political polar opposite?

Those of us who are not Libertarian in name only, walk the walk. That is to say that we're not dependent on the Government for our daily needs. Damage to us is minimal. We look out for our own security. We earn our own living. We don't depend on the state to look after our family well being, and live our lives.

In short:
We don't need you and the lying, sociopathic bastards that are foisted upon the American Electorate every four years.

But...


You, (by the pronoun, i mean the Republicans, let's not make this personal) YOU.NEED.US. Without the independent voter, you have exactly zero chance of getting your candidates elected. 49.999% of the vote in a two man race is still a loss to the party that has 50.001% of that vote.

Anger us at your own peril.
124 posted on 03/12/2007 3:54:06 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Dang, there are all sorts of flavors of conservatives at this forum demanding not to be pissed off at our peril.


125 posted on 03/12/2007 3:58:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
The Country survived LBJ's Great Society. The country survived the Carter Administration. The country survived the Clinton Administration. Hell, the country survived four terms of FDR. It will survive President Hitlery.

Ah, so you are saying that you don't want the ideology that you support to gain office. You have a double-secret alternate strategy that will do...something. I guess I'll wait for it to make sense.

In the interim, the Republican Party learns not to p!$$ off it's conservative base. Painful lesson? Certainly. Often a needed one though.

Ah, the paranoic smoke-filled room theory of politics. There are evil overlords running the party and they have the effrontery not to seek your input. And I can't imagine why not, with such a head for strategic genius you have.

What i've never really understood is the inconsistency in the Republican Party.

The Grand Old Party is not a top-down organization. There is no Nashian party boss in a top hat, with a bloated belly and an ever-present cigar. The smaller parties work that way, but not the big ones. Even the Dems, who are much more top-down, can't keep their coalition together. There is no secret cabal of Illuminati trying to keep you down.

People just don't like you.

as if we Libertarians owed any damned thing to the Republicans...especially our vote...We don't need you and the lying, sociopathic bastards that are foisted upon the American Electorate every four years.

Who's foisting? Ron Paul is running. And he will lose. Badly. He will not place 3rd or better in any primary before the winner gets the required number of delegates. (It is possible he will be one of only two losers straggling at the end of it all.)

You sound like an impotent old man, angry at the rest of the world for his own inability to make a difference and so he loudly and forcefully tells anyone who will listen that he will go off and engage in an Onanistic act.

Like voting for Ron Paul.

148 posted on 03/12/2007 7:19:29 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
The Country survived LBJ's Great Society. The country survived the Carter Administration. The country survived the Clinton Administration. Hell, the country survived four terms of FDR. It will survive President Hitlery.

Yeah. Those Democratick administrations wern't so bad
...and the payoff...

In the interim, the Republican Party learns not to p!$$ off it's conservative base.

We are already the minority party. Your's is a recipe for disaster and you offer no proof that an ideologically pure GOP would ever return to power to impliment change.

You, (by the pronoun, i mean the Republicans, let's not make this personal) YOU.NEED.US. Without the independent voter, you have exactly zero chance of getting your candidates elected. 49.999% of the vote in a two man race is still a loss to the party that has 50.001% of that vote.

The GOP need only move to the left to grab moderate voters to suplant you. If you once were a Republican voter and you leave the party, we lose one vote. But if we convert a rat voter to the GOP we gain 1 vote and the rats lose 1 vote, for a net gain of 2 votes. Your strategy of of denial of support only push the party to the left.

150 posted on 03/12/2007 7:37:22 PM PDT by John David Stutts (Have a nice day)
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