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1 posted on 03/07/2007 8:15:55 AM PST by presidio9
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Is that like the diff between bi and gay?


2 posted on 03/07/2007 8:20:34 AM PST by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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The results of such psychological consultations should not be communicated to seminary superiors

It's either a sin or a medical problem. This guy seems like he sees it as more of a medical problem than a moral failing (which it is).

And the whole notion that homosexuals in the seminary should be shielded and protected (which the confidentiality does) is why the Church ends up in so much trouble.

They've got to figure this out at some point.

3 posted on 03/07/2007 8:20:37 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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seminary authorities should make use of psychological sciences to distinguish between "deep-seated" and transitory homosexual tendencies.

I guess they would be sinner and sinner light?
4 posted on 03/07/2007 8:21:32 AM PST by kinoxi
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If they made an effort to clean up the diocese vocation and seminary formation committees, they wouldn't have to worry about the seminarians. Actually if they cleaned up the episcopate, they wouldn't have to worry about the committees!


8 posted on 03/07/2007 8:33:04 AM PST by Ozone34
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"'deep-seated' homosexuality "

Not the best choice of words for the title.


12 posted on 03/07/2007 8:49:32 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (A Muslim soldier can never be loyal to a non-Muslim commander.)
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BUMP


13 posted on 03/07/2007 8:51:44 AM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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Very dangerous idea. One reason why the priest sex problem became so severe in the 70s was precisely because bishops agreed to turn problem priests over to the psychiatrists.

The psychiatrists didn't give a damn about Catholic principles, and basically they just told the problem priests to do what they felt like doing. Pederasts were quickly released back into the system to do their thing. Huge mistake.

Psychiatrists were also heavily involved in counseling several liberally inclined religious orders, and helped to destroy them with feel-good group therapy sessions.

Bottom line: don't trust a psychiatrist to do a bishop's job.


17 posted on 03/07/2007 9:19:41 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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If they're homesexuals, they should be helping them, not letting them run the asylum. Doesn't matter if they were abused as kids, didn't have a father, or learned it at the local college. It's not normal behavior.


21 posted on 03/07/2007 9:49:44 AM PST by AmericanChef
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Don't invite Gianfranco to speak at CPAC. that would be way overboard!


23 posted on 03/07/2007 9:53:17 AM PST by e_castillo (We should fear the Environmentalist Inquisition...)
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"....authorities should make use of psychological sciences to distinguish between 'deep-rooted' and 'transitory' homosexual tendencies...."

Here we go again.....the Clintonian/Left phrase-parsing and word-nitpicking to sow doubt and confusion regarding the pronouncements and teachings of traditional Christian faiths, the Bible and, in this case, Catholic authorities.

The words to live by are found in the Word, my dear Jesuit priest. Not in the glib words of today's mostly atheistic liberal shrinks who predominate in the so-called psychological "sciences" during these modern times.

If most shrinks had their way, the Bible and the Christian faith would be classified as just another psychological "science" or "tool" to be utilized like hypnosis and dream-reading as a way of trying to cleanse oneself of sin or error and feel good about oneself again.

A growing number in the western world's multitudes don't want any of the strictures of faith anymore. They want to do what they want to do in this life without any restraints or authorities like the Bible, the various Christian denominations, theologians and some old German guy in the Vatican breathing down their necks and making them feel guilty about their hedonistic/humanistic life-styles.

Ergo, to them, that old hidebound Christian faith is dispensable......and as we see every day, the multiple-front attacks on Christianity are mounting in attempts to obliterate it from the consciousness of the populace.

Freeeee-dom or Bust.....is today's Nicene Creed!

Along these lines, it's trendy today to substitute the analyst's couch for a church pew, a shrink for a minister, reverend or priest......and a text book authored by Freud for Holy Writ.

Why all this shuckin' and jivin' (as encapsulated in the above Jesuit's New Age babble)) over the basic teaching on homosexuality articulated rather plainly over and over by the Holy Father and the Vatican doctrinal offices?

I used to think the shortage of priests drove the many attempts at dilution of biblical tenets in the RCC regarding this issue. However, I've arrived at the conclusion that all these little propaganda homilies and the dilution-of-Scripture hit-and-runs by liberal theologians (as articulated by the cleric above) under the silky guise of "debate" and "science" are basically agenda-driven.

I'm convinced the drive is on to again pack the seminaries with psychologically screwed-up students who go to sleep every night muttering to themselves, "I'm a wreck. Am I a 'deep-rooted' or 'transitory' homo? I really must schedule another appointment tomorrow with my shrink. I'd would ordinarily look for some answers to my angst in Christian scriptures.....but things are just too black-and-white in the Bible for this day and age and for my sensitive and compassionate nature".

Leni

25 posted on 03/07/2007 10:37:21 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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