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U.S. assails Chen's moves in direction of independence
The China Post (Taiwan) ^ | 3/7/07 | The China Post

Posted on 03/07/2007 5:07:38 AM PST by zook

Washington called President Chen Shui-bian's pledge to push for independence "unhelpful" Monday and reiterated its stance against independence for the island Beijing regards as a renegade province.

"As it is well-established, the U.S. does not support independence for Taiwan," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

"President (George W.) Bush has repeatedly underscored his opposition to unilateral changes to the status quo by either Taipei or Beijing because this threatens regional peace and stability, U.S. national interests and Taiwan's own welfare," McCormack said.

He reminded that Chen had pledged in his 2000 and 2004 inaugurations to not declare independence, change the island state's name, or advocate other sovereignty themes.

"President Chen's fulfillment of his commitments is a test of leadership, dependability and statesmanship and of his ability to protect Taiwan's interests, its relations with others and to maintain peace and stability in the Strait," McCormack said.

"Rhetoric that could raise doubts about these commitments is unhelpful."

On Sunday Chen told a group of Taiwan independence advocates that "Taiwan wants independence, Taiwan wants to change its name, Taiwan wants a new constitution, Taiwan wants development."

Such rhetoric in the past has angered Beijing, and raised concerns in the United States, which has pledged to protect Taiwan from Chinese military aggression.


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"As it is well-established, the U.S. does not support independence for Taiwan," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said.

DPP needs to carefully consider the meaning of these words.

1 posted on 03/07/2007 5:07:40 AM PST by zook
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To: zook
As it is well-established, the U.S. does not support independence for Taiwan

Freedom is on the march.

2 posted on 03/07/2007 5:11:24 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: zook

Taiwan IS independent. And I HATE the media for repeating that evil "renegade province" phrase. Taiwan is an independent vibrant democracy, and has been for decades. China is going to attack and kill those people while the left applauds.


3 posted on 03/07/2007 5:11:47 AM PST by Williams
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To: zook

Alternate title:

"Bush Doctrine Ends With a Whimper"


4 posted on 03/07/2007 5:14:20 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: Williams

Taiwan has de facto independence right now, but is still recognized (by the world and by a large percentage of its citizens) as "part of China."

The ideal situation would be for an eventual reunification of Taiwan and the mainland under conditions that would allow political and economic freedom to continue to grow in both places.

The actions of Chen and the DPP not only destroy chances for that to happen, but also greatly increase the chances of war. It's reckless brinkmanship aimed at forcing the US to get involved.

But I do not believe that the US will defend Taiwan militarily if independence is formally declared, nor would I want us to.


5 posted on 03/07/2007 5:18:58 AM PST by zook
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To: Uncle Ike

The Bush "doctrine" has always been that Taiwan is part of China and that neither country should act recklessly. Right now, it is Chen and the DPP who are doing so.


6 posted on 03/07/2007 5:20:17 AM PST by zook
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To: zook

They have a right to be free of Chinese Communist control.

The mainland may be prosperous, but it is a filthy dictatorship.

Too many people including our own government put money ahead of principle.

Chen has political problems of his own from what I understand, but I know the mainland will use any means to take control of Taiwan. That stinks.

If Chen wants to stand up to them, more power to him.

We don't need apologists for communism (with free market economics or not).

China=Castro with prosperity.


7 posted on 03/07/2007 5:27:19 AM PST by Nextrush
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To: zook

I agree. Us defending Taiwan militarily would be the height of stupidity, especially now.


8 posted on 03/07/2007 5:28:37 AM PST by frankiep (Beer - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems)
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To: Nextrush

Have you been to China recently? I have. The government may be authoritarian, even dictatorial in many ways, but the amount of political and economic freedom enjoyed by people there is, relatively speaking, amazing to see.

I mean, there are a billion people in China. It's unrealistic to imagine that it will turn into some kind of democratic wonderland overnight.

The KMT party in Taiwan is staunchly opposed to independence. Their likelihood of victory in the next national election is fairly high.


9 posted on 03/07/2007 5:31:24 AM PST by zook
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ping for future.


10 posted on 03/07/2007 5:33:32 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: zook

That "doctrine" has been around since Nixon.


11 posted on 03/07/2007 5:34:26 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Nextrush

I had to follow up on your comment that:

"China=Castro with prosperity."

Chinese citizens are free to leave the country at will. Chinese newsstands and book stores carry publications like USA Today, The Economist, even the Bible. MSNBC and CNN are carried on some cable TV outlets.

Yes, I know that all of these (except the Bible, I believe) are occasionally censored. I realize that web sites (such as FR) are unavailable. But China is nothing like Cuba anymore.


12 posted on 03/07/2007 5:35:35 AM PST by zook
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To: zook
The Taiwanese should have the right of self-determination--they should be able to win their independence if they choose to.

That stated, it does seem less and less probable that the United States will come militarily to Taiwan's defense if the PRC attempts to take over the ROC by force.

13 posted on 03/07/2007 5:39:33 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: zook
Churches have to get government approval, and there are many accounts of persecution of religious minorities.

The PRC has a long way to go before it can be considered politically and socially free (after the fashion of the United States and many countries in the West).

14 posted on 03/07/2007 5:42:13 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: zook
The State Department would come out with this idiotic statement, just like when it advised the Ukrainians to continue submitting to Soviet rule. The people of Taiwan do NOT want to be gang-pressed as slaves into the Chinese Communist police state. If they want independence, its their right, just as it was our right in 1776 to see the backside of an oppressive Mother Country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 03/07/2007 5:43:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
No question they have a long way to go. But it's hard to deny how far they've come. And, I remain skeptical of many of the accounts I've read about religious persecution, though I know it exists, especially for those who seek to proselytize.
16 posted on 03/07/2007 5:44:57 AM PST by zook
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To: goldstategop

But see my posts 9 and 12.


17 posted on 03/07/2007 5:46:05 AM PST by zook
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To: neodad
The Commiecrats in the State Department cannot stop the march of freedom by issuing a demarche against it. Screw the timid minds of the status quo in Foggy Bottom. Speaking quite plainly, they've always been on the wrong side of history. With sheer pleasure I give my finger to the striped pants crowd over there.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 03/07/2007 5:46:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: zook
He reminded that Chen had pledged in his 2000 and 2004 inaugurations to not declare independence, change the island state's name, or advocate other sovereignty themes.

He forgot to mention the other half of the pledge which was provided China did not threaten the use of force to take over the island. When the Chinese passed that resolution a few years ago, they did just that.

19 posted on 03/07/2007 5:47:13 AM PST by TheCipher
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To: TheCipher

To me, it looks like Chen has engaged in more brinkmanship behavior over TI than the mainland has done over reunification.


20 posted on 03/07/2007 5:51:36 AM PST by zook
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