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No deal, Rudy
Catholic Online ^ | 3/6/2007

Posted on 03/06/2007 5:39:37 PM PST by markomalley

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To: gogeo

Not sure some of them rise to the level of college student recently.


441 posted on 03/07/2007 7:34:29 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: Spiff; Corin Stormhands
Why are you attacking fellow FReepers who are conservatives? I've posted nothing in this thread and nothing to you for I don't know how long. You can't debate Giuliani's positions or defend them instead you have to engage in personal attacks. This time you're going after me, narses, tommydale, and flashbunny to get your jollies.

Spiff, I'm completely on your side in this debacle, but I've gotta say, I think that graphic is pretty funny. Wear it as a badge of honor. I wish I were well-known enough on FR that someone would make a graphic about me.

442 posted on 03/07/2007 7:50:49 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
"Restricting abortion" includes any and all legal regulation of abortion, up to making it totally illegal.

I would cheer for making abortion totally illegal. I, for one, do not believe that a little bit of murder is OK.

I also believe that if you allow an exception for rape or incest that you are executing the wrong person. You should be executing the guilty father and not the innocent child.

As for the life of the mother exception - I believe that is a straw dog. The numbers of abortions that would be allowed for that exception would far exceed the number of mothers whose life would actually be in jeopardy. Besides, we are stepping on God's turf when we take upon ourselves to decide which life is worth more than another.

443 posted on 03/07/2007 7:55:05 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: gogeo

"If you seriously believe that, then your problem is a larger one than immaturity."

The only problem I have is with pretend conservatives on FR promoting a liberal candidate. Hillary appreciates your support.


444 posted on 03/07/2007 7:56:54 AM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: PhiKapMom
So is John McCain. Both said they first debate will be at the Reagan Library. Mrs. Reagan extended the invitation and they accepted as their first debate.

I'm going to have to drink heavily in order to stomach sitting through a debate between those two.

445 posted on 03/07/2007 8:00:53 AM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: LWalk18

"some people never learn". Do not try to mind other people's business any more than absolutely necessary, especially on "moral" grounds. If you are so overcome with heartburn/morality reflux that it overflows, then remember the injunction about a beam in one's own eye and direct your moral efforts to self-improvement.


446 posted on 03/07/2007 8:08:51 AM PST by GSlob
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To: MHGinTN

see # 446.


447 posted on 03/07/2007 8:12:02 AM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob
You got it - they are none of my business.

Yeah, let them die. Might as well repeal laws against murder. None of my business.

448 posted on 03/07/2007 8:15:46 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: markomalley

Laura Ingrahm is just finished reaing this article on the air.


449 posted on 03/07/2007 8:16:02 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: DungeonMaster
I have a problem with people who CLAIM to be Catholic and speak an act in ways that oppose Catholic teaching, like Rudy Guiliani. In my eyes he is the ultimate hypocrite.

"I have a real problem with Mormons"

Why?

450 posted on 03/07/2007 8:23:49 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: Aquinasfan

None of your business, absolutely correct. See # 446 and take care of the beam in your own eye before attempting to play an ophtalmologist.


451 posted on 03/07/2007 8:26:10 AM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob

Proud of that dead-soul are ya?


452 posted on 03/07/2007 8:28:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: gogeo
First of all, I believe you're wrong that Guiliani has the ability to win in the general. Not only can he not defeat Hillary but he hasn't a prayer against Obama who may well be the Democratic nominee.

Secondly, there is a Republican candidate in the race who CAN defeat Hillary or Obama and is running on a conservative plank, Mitt Romney.

453 posted on 03/07/2007 8:29:00 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: TAdams8591
"I have a real problem with Mormons"

Why?

Personal experience with their non Christian doctrine and their bait and switch evangelism.

454 posted on 03/07/2007 8:29:35 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”)
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To: TAdams8591

How many here who are against abortion have ever helped out in a clinic or financially supported one? I know our church has one and rather than yell and scream about who's anti-abortion or pro-life, it would be much better to help out those women who at this very moment are contemplating whether to end a human life or not. I have never thought we would change the issue up at the government level - it is a moral, heart issue that needs local efforts, changing the hearts of the women who are making this decision.


455 posted on 03/07/2007 8:30:09 AM PST by princess leah
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To: Aquinasfan
Catholics who have internalized the teachings of the church do not need a Voter's Guide.

The poster's argument is a typical appeal to Catholics to ignore the conscience that was shaped by Catholic teaching.

456 posted on 03/07/2007 8:33:23 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: GSlob
"and to abort when the consequences catch up with them."

People used to marry when the consequences caught up with them. There will come a day when that practice again becomes preferential to abortion.

457 posted on 03/07/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: jmc813

>> 1) No single position should be a "disqualifier".
>
> For better or for worse, 2nd Amendment advocates disagree
> with you.

There are lots of single issue voters who hold "this" or "that" to be inviolable and refuse to ally with anyone who doesn't support their point of view in its entirety.

I'm sure it gives them warm cockles of self-righteousness all over their insides.

It's also a recipe for getting beaten like a red headed step child at election time.


458 posted on 03/07/2007 8:40:38 AM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: DungeonMaster
WOW, I never met a mormon I didn't like.

As a Catholic, I find the twice divorced, thrice married, pro-homosexual union, pro-choice Catholic Guiliani despicable.

I support the candidacy of the once married, never divorced, father of five, grandfather of ten, MORMON Romney.

459 posted on 03/07/2007 8:43:51 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: princess leah
"How many here who are against abortion have ever helped out in a clinic or financially supported one?"

What kind of clinic do you mean?

"it would be much better to help out those women who at this very moment are contemplating whether to end a human life or not. I have never thought we would change the issue up at the government level "

I believe the issue has to be fought at EVERY level, and at various points in my life have fought it at EVERY level.

460 posted on 03/07/2007 8:48:59 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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