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Verdict in Libby Trial in....reading at noon. (Guilty On 4 of 5 Charges)
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Posted on 03/06/2007 8:34:59 AM PST by Dog

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To: maggief

The interference I got from that was that:

there was a time when they were taking straw polls .. most were favorable to conviction .. 7-4, etc.

then they got to feeling they were holding people's feet to the fire and it got to be too much, so they stopped doing them and just got on with analyzing the case and their discussions


981 posted on 03/06/2007 11:01:56 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: maggief
Denis couldn't remember the straw votes ... see post #916

Oh, sure, he can't remember lots of things that occurred in the past two weeks when this trial was the whole focus of his life, but Libby is to go to jail for what he didn't remember from months and years past.....

Does Denis not remember or is he.... LYING?
982 posted on 03/06/2007 11:02:37 AM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: Miss Didi; sully777
From Outside the Beltway blog, on Judge's preliminary instructions to the jury:

Unlike many judges, he allows jurors to take notes. Don’t try to take down verbatim transcript, though, but just occasional things you need to remember. It’s more important to pay attention to the witnesses’ demeanor and such than to take good notes. The notes will be destroyed at the end of deliberations.

983 posted on 03/06/2007 11:02:52 AM PST by maryz
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To: GOP_Muzik
Is it just me or is the WaPo juror saying "where was Rove, Cheney" almost surreal? There is a serious problem here.

Yes, you heard correctly.

984 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:02 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: LS

because of the mandate from the white house to "cooperate with this serious investigation". now we know why Fleischer resigned, to get out from under that.


985 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:08 AM PST by oceanview
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To: woofie

My guess is that Susan McDougal had a lot to fear from Clinton. I don't think Scooter has much to fear from GWB.


986 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:25 AM PST by ex-NFO
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To: Enchante

If it's our Denis this is a big indication of far-left lunacy.... "PEOPLE FOR THE AMERICAN WAY" is a far-left propaganda organ masquerading as a "civic education" group.
___________

I wonder if it's him. Probably is.
Frankly, that's about what you have to except holding a trial in the suburbs of DC.
Denis with one 'N' was probably the most conservative on the damned jury.


987 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:39 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Dog

Brit Hume didn't really just say that Libby was convicted of a crime that didn't exist until the investigation, did he? He can't possibly be this stupid? Can he?

The trial was about Libby lying to the FBI, lying to the Plame investigators, not the Plame leak. That is a different matter and was not part of the charges. It's one thing for Hume to be critical of the verdict, but can't he at least not be a total retard while doing it?

I am glad that this turned out the way it did. Obstruction of Justice and Perjury should not be tolerated. It isn't a partisan issue, well at least it wasn't in the 90's.

One last thing -- the legal process isn't done yet, so if there were errors you can bet that the verdict will be appealed and that the D.C. Circuit will look favorably on Libby.


988 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:48 AM PST by homer777
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To: MEGoody

Libby did, in fact, give interviews to the FBI within months after the conversations. And he did, in fact, testify to the GJ less than a year after those conversations. But we know you aren't concerned with facts, so keep spinning.


989 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:50 AM PST by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: STARWISE

(no link)

Lawyer Dennis Collins, 65, Headed Program for Youths
Washington Post, The (DC)
September 17, 1979
Estimated printed pages: 2

Dennis Collins, 65, a Washington attorney for 40 years who was active in church and youth work, died of cancer Saturday at his home in Washington.

Mr. Collins left his home in Abbeyfeale, Ireland, when he was 17 to join an older brother and sister in Washington.
After graduating from Western High School in 1934, he worked as a busboy, window washer and clerk. He became interested in law while making sandwiches at Greene's, a delicatessen on 6th and D streets NW frequented by lawyers and judges.

"Many a judge has told me I was a better sandwich maker than a lawyer," he would frequently joke. Mr. Collins earned a law degree at Columbus Law School in 1940 and joined the law office of Neil Burkinshaw. He leaves two partners, William Fitzgerald and Jerry Collins.

"I knew Dennis Collins as an opponent and as a judge," said D.C. Superior Judge Paul McArdle. "As an opponent I was completely at a disadvantage because I didn't have that Irish brogue which he cultivated so beautifully," McArdle said.

Mr. Collins was a member of the Holy Name Society, the Serra Club and the Ancient Order of Hibernians. He was president of the Nativity Elementary School Catholic Yough Organization sports program for 27 years. For most of these years, he would charter a boat on the Chesapeake Bay to take the grade school athletes on a fishing trip.

He is survived by his wife, Mary, of the home; two daughters, Mary Margaret Nicholaus of Silver Spring, and Angela Collins of Ashburn, Va.; four sons, Kevin of Bethesda, Joseph of Aldie, Va., and Denis and Brendan, both of Washington; a brother, Dan, of Ireland; four sisters, Nora Kelly, of Greenbelt, and Mary McGuire, Shelia Richardson, and Kathleen Stuart, all of Arlington, and two grandchildren.

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990 posted on 03/06/2007 11:03:51 AM PST by maggief
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To: STARWISE

Per Catherine Herrige, Fox News: Val & Joe welcoming the verdict. Will continue to pursue their civil case.


991 posted on 03/06/2007 11:04:21 AM PST by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: Dog
*BUMP*! for posting this report.

The worst possible result caused by a committed, federal prosecutor with a possible hidden agenda and a jury which ought to have been informed that Scooter was NOT the leaker. Plaime was not a "victim" intended to be protected by the statute. On the other hand, going into a Grand Jury with the intent to lie under oath is reprehensible. 30 Years! For making a mistake in before the GJ. Oh, well . . . Spilled milk and all that. Bush could pardon the man and make everything moot. But I do not believe he wants to do that today. Maybe next year. Or just before he exits the White House. But even more daunting is what will surely happen next: Civil lawsuits will soon be filed in D.C. seeking millions. You cannot unring this bell. No matter how much you may wish it to go away.

992 posted on 03/06/2007 11:04:38 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: AmishDude
"The dummy wasn't smart enough to wait a day where he could credibly claim he'd heard the new stuff after deliberation."

He's no dummy. He's an author who has successfully pushed scandal-mongering in the past, including criticisms of Libby's WH office.

Jury duty was a winning powerball ticket for this guy. He will make a million dollars off this, which explains his breathless enthusiasm. "Where's Rove, where's Cheney......We were hoping for Bush," (stars in his eyes).

993 posted on 03/06/2007 11:04:44 AM PST by cookcounty (How odd. Lee Hamilton now employed by Sandy Berger: stonebridge-international.com)
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To: oceanview

How did the judge and jury get that one juror thrown off? I thought she read something in the newspaper and went to the judge to tell him about it. Was there another juror thrown off the jury?


994 posted on 03/06/2007 11:05:54 AM PST by Kathy in Calif
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To: petercooper

HAR HAR - always the same corny remark from you cheesepuffs. DUmmy - what is that? answer the question I asked and see how much sense you make. The point is you can't smear people who oppose your agenda.


995 posted on 03/06/2007 11:06:10 AM PST by nuve9
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To: homer777
Brit Hume didn't really just say that Libby was convicted of a crime that didn't exist until the investigation, did he? He can't possibly be this stupid? Can he?

What was the crime before the investigation? The entire 'investigation' was a set up because there WAS no crime.

996 posted on 03/06/2007 11:06:41 AM PST by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops!!)
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To: GOP_Muzik

He was hoping they might have Pres. Bush and the VP in the courtroom!


997 posted on 03/06/2007 11:06:48 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: cookcounty

could the juror possibly be admitting that he read "evidence" about the case in the media?


998 posted on 03/06/2007 11:07:03 AM PST by machogirl
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To: windchime
Val & Joe welcoming the verdict. Will continue to pursue their civil case.

...and their book and movie deals.

999 posted on 03/06/2007 11:07:37 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: JamesP81

Rudy might be the answer. I am hoping that his prosecution of the union controlling Mafia would presage a fight against the union control of the legislature and I am hoping that his pragmatic realism means that he would not stand idly by and allow the postmodern metanarrative justice to pervert the system.

We need a strong leader who can articulate the dangers that are facing this country, both from within and from without.


1,000 posted on 03/06/2007 11:07:42 AM PST by Eva
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