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1 posted on 03/02/2007 6:13:43 AM PST by Tolik
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2 posted on 03/02/2007 6:14:15 AM PST by Tolik
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I think VDH underestimates support for Bush's Mideast policy if conservatives at FreeRepublic are any indication. Also, I'd never call myself a McCain conservative... ouch


3 posted on 03/02/2007 6:18:46 AM PST by Tolik
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BTTT


5 posted on 03/02/2007 6:44:13 AM PST by aculeus
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We got here because we have a "National News Media", on behalf of the Democrat Party Noise Machine, openly propagandizing for our Nation's enemies.
6 posted on 03/02/2007 6:45:01 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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But how did we get to this situation, to this fury over a war once supported by 70 percent of the public and a majority of Congress, but now orphaned by both?

A one-word answer: liberalism.

10 posted on 03/02/2007 6:50:55 AM PST by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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a grotesque televised beheading unanswered by a tough American retaliation against the militias

We only killed the guy who did it. Gee Dr Hanson, so sorry the world does not work on the 2 hour Action Movie time frame you Arm Chair Rambos think it should.

11 posted on 03/02/2007 6:53:41 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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First, George Bush ran for president as a realist, who turned Wilsonian only after 9/11, in the belief that removing Saddam and leaving democracy in his wake could break up the nexus between Middle Eastern terrorism and autocracy.

Second, after the relatively easy victories in Grenada, Panama, the Gulf War, Serbia, and Afghanistan, the American public became accustomed to removing thugs in weeks and mostly by air and light ground-support. All during the 1990s, the more we made use of the military the more we cut it, until things came to a head in Iraq in a postwar effort that has been both long and confined largely to the ground.

He's touching here on what I think is the real reason our nation turned against the war - the Administration set us up with completely unrealistic expectations.

The Administration should have treated 9/11 like Pearl Harbor. The country was united behind W, and we all would gladly have sacrificed for a major and prolonged war effort. We should have turned our manufacturing into the war effort, pulling together, everyone working daily to give our boys the tools they needed. But instead of asking for that sacrifice, we were told that our contribution to the war effort was to keep on shopping.

The American public should have been braced for a long but worthwhile fight. Instead, the Administration went on talk shows to reassure us that it would be relatively quick and easy, and we certainly wouldn't have to actually sacrifice anything or change our lifestyles in any way.

Had they been realistic at the beginning, the hearts of Americans would still be with the Administration today. That's the shame of it, that's the wasted opportunity.

W's legacy will not that he started an unjust war, no matter how much the leftists cry. The real legacy is that he didn't prepare us to win a very legitimate one.

15 posted on 03/02/2007 7:20:03 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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He's only obliquely and very tangentially including the "small picture" in his issue of "will". We have been fighting house to house, block by block, for months or maybe even years now. We aren't blowing things up wholesale like in the good old days.

We are in a stalemate and there is no sense that we are "turning a corner" when nearly every day brings a new report of dozens of people killed by yet another marketplace bombing.


16 posted on 03/02/2007 7:20:07 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Sad to say, it's already too late for our Outstanding troops to salvage the situation under this surrendering president.
Add it all up, Firing Rumsfeld, Failure to secure and seal the Iranian and Syrian borders. [Mexico anyone ???].Participating in Iraq/Iran/Terrorist/ regional neighborhood diplomatic "CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG BULLCRAP" Sessions.
Sitting in the same room with Pelosi and Reid and Seeking that Esteemed Criminal Group's august input.
I'm very very afraid it really is all over and perhaps McCain's devastating slip of vocabulary was not wrong. God help us. Someone please tell me I'm wrong.
23 posted on 03/02/2007 8:08:50 AM PST by late bloomer ( Neglegere homo pone aulaeum. semi-retired warlord)
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Tks. as usual VDH nails it.


47 posted on 03/05/2007 12:38:00 PM PST by crazycat
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