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    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

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2 posted on 03/02/2007 6:14:15 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
Please add me to your VDH ping list.

Simply put, VDH nailed it...again.

4 posted on 03/02/2007 6:33:25 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Chuck Hagel makes Joe Biden look like a statesman!)
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To: Tolik

VDH breaks it down again.


18 posted on 03/02/2007 7:39:55 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Tolik

VDH breaks it down again.


19 posted on 03/02/2007 7:39:58 AM PST by beebuster2000
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To: Tolik

Thanks for the ping !


32 posted on 03/02/2007 9:35:13 AM PST by IrishMike ( What happens when aliens breed with sheep ? - Democrats)
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To: Tolik

Victor "Panglos" Hanson bump.


33 posted on 03/02/2007 9:38:38 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Tolik; misterrob
I am really disappointed. I would of figures Dr Hanson was smarter then this. I guess the "Movie Strategy from watching macho boy Hollywerid movies" mindset is just too deep set for the American people to ever cope with how different Counter Insurgency is from Conventional War.

For example Al Sadr. Al Sadr is a clever little thug. He walks right up to the line but he does not cross it. He is typical of the sorts of messy little problems that crop up in a Counter Insurgency. NOT exactly an enemy not exactly an ally. So how you deal with him is troublesome.

Since Malki and Al Sadr are both Shia, Malki cannot squish him without splitting his own power base. So he keeps trying to negotiate with the twit. We have FINALLY caught a break since the twit ran off to Iran.

Here is how Counter Insurgency run the Dinocon way would look.

. - Americans: Yo, all you Iraqis. Now we know you all have been oppressed and terrorized by Saddam and his goons for about 40 years so we came over here to show you a better way. So gather round and we are going to teach you this thing called Democracy. We want to teach you this cause we figure if we get can get enough of you following this ideology you will not follow the ideology that preaches it is a good thing to fly airplanes into buildings full of our Civilians.

Now the first things you need to learn is this part about the Rule of Law. Study the sub chapters on Innocent until prove Guilty, Trial by Jury, Right to Legal Representation and really important, the chapter on outlawing Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Ok, now while you do that, we are going to arbitrarily round up and kill any Iraqis who we think maybe have ever talked mean about us.

What? No we are not going to bother with any of that messy Democracy stuff cause we are at war. And according to our Holloweird Movie guide to Military Action flicks any time you are at war you can waste anyone who pisses you off for what ever reason you want any way you want to do it. According to Hollyweird, we don't need nothing like proof or nothing we can just go wack that little Al Sadr freak cause he pisses us off. Evidence? We don't need no stinkin' evidence. Our action movie heros never bother with any evidence. In the Movie we watch on TV says we are just suppose to go kill him because he pisses us off so that what we want to do here. Now quit talking back and learn our lessons on Democracy.

Iraqi 1. Hey Mahmoud, why are we helping these clowns?

Iraqi 2. What do you mean Achmed, they got rid of Saddam!

Iraqi 1. They did? Looks to me like they just took his place.

Iraqi 2. Well ya so?

Iraqi 1. Well at least the old thugs were from around here. These guys are not only from out of town they are not even Muslims. We may has well have Muslim thugs if we got to have thugs.

Iraqi 2. You right, time to join the Jihad!

That is what this "Counter Insurgency doctrine as learned from watching TV dramas" would produce. It is utter stupidity but forget trying to penetrate the Dinocons welded shut minds. They are too busy screaming their group think on Iraq to actually LEARN anything about Iraq.

34 posted on 03/02/2007 9:39:20 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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Please put me back on the VDH ping list. I very seldom comment on VDH because there is usually not much more to add. Thank you in advance.
43 posted on 03/02/2007 9:24:30 PM PST by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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