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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002

The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.

Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.

Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.

There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.

When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.

Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.

But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.

This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.

When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.

Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.

If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.

To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.

Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.

Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.

If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.


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KEYWORDS: 11thcommandment; 1dumbvanity; dinos; duncanhunter; fanatics; fauxreaganites; giuliani; rinos; rinotalkingpoints; rudy; yesrinosmustgo
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To: Reagan Man; Carolinamom; Jim Robinson
Not that its any of your business, which its not. As far as I know, CT is history on FR. Never to post again. Thank God! You should follow his example.

Have you conferred with the management about your position vis a vis having people leave FR? Does he back you up on that?

641 posted on 02/28/2007 1:09:35 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Cold Heat

You suggest revising that document to get rid of the "social crap" and "garbage" according to your definition. I assume therefore you do not support President Bush since he endorses the entire platform, including that "social crap".
If you wish to read the document a link is here: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/showplatforms.php?platindex=R2004


642 posted on 02/28/2007 1:09:44 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: PhiKapMom
CP would be cracking up laughing at this thread!

Wow. Another fan of the Clowns.

643 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Chena

Yeah - sure didn't take long for this thread to degenerate - and I think of the 3 relevant threads this one actually LEADS in the number of deleted posts...


644 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:03 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Howlin

What is your Clown Posse screenname?


645 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:03 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours!)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
"Not the majority tho Jim."

Thank God!

646 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Spiff
And the liberal-supporting pukes drove it right over that cliff.

Pukes? Indeed the forum has been taken over by the unappeasable. Once reason and mature discourse is gone you'll be left with a $9.95 a month hosting plan.
647 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:34 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: PhiKapMom

What is your Clown Posse screenname?


648 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:47 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (RINO = Rudy Is Not Ours!)
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To: Peach

There was something like "we need to increase the GOP seats in Congress to affect and advance conservative change in Washington" in that vanity too.


649 posted on 02/28/2007 1:10:57 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: EternalVigilance

Unlike you, I never even registered there.


650 posted on 02/28/2007 1:11:05 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: PhiKapMom

People living in glass vans shouldn't be throwing rocks. ;-)


651 posted on 02/28/2007 1:12:06 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: Spiff

Yeah Spiff. Re-read the one about President Clinton and imagine a list 4x as long when its Prez Hitlary thanks to your attempts to destroy the GOP.


652 posted on 02/28/2007 1:12:39 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Howlin
Unlike you, I never even registered there.

Yeah, right, sure. But you loved 'em anyway.

For the record, I registered and posted there to counter the kind of libelous scumbag drivel you and your friends are posting on this very thread.

653 posted on 02/28/2007 1:13:00 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Romulus

Tell us how 8 years of Bill Clinton didn't do anything to YOU and to this nation. Come on, I'm waiting and it better be in extreme detail.


654 posted on 02/28/2007 1:13:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Registered

Uh-oh, you said "vans!"


655 posted on 02/28/2007 1:13:18 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Spoken like a true Clown.

You're the only one among us who had an account there.

656 posted on 02/28/2007 1:13:58 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Howlin; Registered

Why don't you two get a room?


657 posted on 02/28/2007 1:14:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Actually, you registered there when they got the facts about you; we all saw it, so there's no reason to try to mischaracterize it.


658 posted on 02/28/2007 1:14:20 PM PST by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Never posted there in my life and never joined but I did read what they were saying.


659 posted on 02/28/2007 1:14:22 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- RudyforPresident2008@yahoogroups.com or http://www.rudygforamerica.com)
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To: dirtboy

I must be a right-wing nut then. The RINOs around here seem to think the platform should be all Rudyism, all the time. No thanks.


660 posted on 02/28/2007 1:14:23 PM PST by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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