Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
And the liberal-supporting pukes drove it right over that cliff.
You are quite an accomplished liar.
The flavor of the month is abortion, illegal immigration is so yesterday it seems, Iraq is not on their radar, and 9/11 never happened.
Now I don't recall reading such a statement, but then, how many threads can I read in a day?
Would you mind telling us whether this is your position on the matter?
Thanks!
..so many happy memories from your creative mind...you've given us much to chuckle over ...
..now we disagree strongly....and the words are hurtful
Snideness is your forte, I see.
LOL!
Hey thats real clever, and I'm sure felt real good to post, but I doubt it's a good strategy for winning hearts & minds for Rudy.
I was leaning towards Hunter, posts like this have the effect of a good shove between the shoulder blades.
FWIW, surely you have noticed that some FReepers who claim to agree with us on Conservative issues have been posting comments that are inflamatory, arrogant, hateful, and downright rude. Personally, I do not want to be associated with those sort of people as I feel they do more harm than good to the conservative cause. With FRiends like these, who needs enemies.
And yet Jim wrote a vanity before the November elections telling us that the WOT was the most important thing.
I guess it's not just politicians who expect us to have amnesia.
After what JR has posted about RG, he could never vote for him, even against Hillary, because to him Hillary is more conservative (she used to be a Republican).
Spoken like a true Clown.
Sorry, silly, your transferrrence won't cut it with us! LOL, keep trying, keep lying.
CP would be cracking up laughing at this thread! How many posters on this thread are retreds from the past and now have free reign to say anything they want?
Couldn't have said it better myself. Especially that last sentence. Ever since Arnold ran in 2003, the liberal FReepers have been shining their RINO lights brightly. Now with Rudy running for Prez, we're gonna see how far these liberal FReepers will go in advancing a fellow liberal for POTUS. Conservative FReepers need to watch their backs at all times.
Good grief, what a helluva way to select the leader of the free world... You are right though, the party IS in trouble.
We're in trouble because we're fragmented and emotional. I've been teaching people and teams a high risk trade for a long time, and I know this for certain. Once you lose your emotional detachment, and forget the parameters of the game out of anger and frustration, you're defeating yourself. Our opponents are incompetent, but our internal divisions are razor sharp. They'll hand the left a victory they could never win otherwise.
Put aside all of your wants in a leader. Think of what America, right, then left, then center, is looking for. Not in general, but right now. 2007. The election will fall to whichever side capitalizes on the current mood of the nation. If we can't honestly assess that mood, and field a candidate along those lines, we, according the system enacted by our Founding Fathers, will lose.
So stop thinking like fanatics, and start thinking like chessplayers, or be ready to nurse a string of principaled defeats.
Calling the person sitting next to you a murderous, treasonous, gun grabbing, baby killer, ain't gonna win over and smiles or a handshake either.
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Excellent. :)
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