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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Al Simmons
IN USING THIS TERM I IN NO WAY INTENDED TO LUMP THE VAST MAJORITY OF POLITE FREEPERS, WHO HAVE LEGITIMATE RESERVATIONSW ABOUT RUDY

..why thank you, Al

BTW you were a great baseball player...

301 posted on 02/28/2007 11:19:40 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am well aware of that passage, EV. Now, don't you think it's TIME for you to answer my question? Who are you FOR?


302 posted on 02/28/2007 11:19:50 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: Artemis Webb
"Nice work Al."

Do I detect a note of sarcasm? #:>0

303 posted on 02/28/2007 11:20:05 AM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: EternalVigilance

I wish it was time for you to stfu you fifth columist disruptor.


304 posted on 02/28/2007 11:20:43 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Al Simmons
Driving RINOs out of the GOP? What a laugh! The greater societal trends are driving conservatism out of existence, soon the only candidates the GOP offers will all be as "conservative" as Jacques Chirac, and the Politics As Horse Race crowd and the Wall Street Flacks will still be saying, to an ever shrinking audience, how we have to vote for them to keep the Democrats out. In a democracy those who control the media will control the culture and dominate politics, and if you can't compete with that all the tactical victories in the world won't save you from strategic defeat.
305 posted on 02/28/2007 11:21:14 AM PST by jordan8
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To: Al Simmons

He already explained why he thought he was a socialist. In the full quote, Jim explained:

"Wants to control free speech, regulate or ban guns, seize private property, use the heavy hand of government to control, regulate private industry, wants to award special rights to homosexuals accelerating the breakdown of moral society, he devalues and degrades human life, claims there is a constitutional right to abortion, is even ok with ripping unborn babies limb from limb and or sucking their brains out. The man is a socialist."

I've got to agree. Such views are those of a socialist.


306 posted on 02/28/2007 11:21:17 AM PST by NinoFan
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To: Cold Heat
Why don't you go put a tourniquet on that short space between your shoulders and your chin.

Now there's an intelligent response.

307 posted on 02/28/2007 11:21:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Common Tator is gone??? Really?? One less Rino around here to fight and feud with??? I knew this would be a good day.


308 posted on 02/28/2007 11:21:53 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Cold Heat

When Liberal Republicans vote no different than Liberal Democrats, I don't see where my political support of this party has been either

A. Appreciated
B. Desired

Therefore if another Liberal Republican is nominated for the Presidancy, I will not support them.


309 posted on 02/28/2007 11:21:57 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: 68 grunt
I wish it was time for you to stfu you fifth columist disruptor.

Like I told you the other day, old man. Watch that blood pressure.

310 posted on 02/28/2007 11:22:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: youngjim
Thank you for bringing that up. I somehow missed Eternal Vigilance's post:

Common Tator was a well-known FR liberal and a prolific poster on this site for years.

You are right, youngjim, Common Tator was no liberal, and the depths EV will go to disparage someone is despicable.

311 posted on 02/28/2007 11:23:04 AM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: Luke21

Well, need to be careful about that. I understand he has some health issues. He's in my prayers, even if we disagreed on pretty much everything politically.


312 posted on 02/28/2007 11:23:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Howlin

You and I usually disagree, but I do think Fred Thompson could save us from all this.


313 posted on 02/28/2007 11:24:46 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Carolinamom
I am well aware of that passage, EV. Now, don't you think it's TIME for you to answer my question? Who are you FOR?

Right now, I'm for saving the Republican Party from the certain destruction it faces if it thumbs its nose at pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun constitutional conservatives.

314 posted on 02/28/2007 11:25:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Sensei Ern
I BEMOANED the Dole candidacy because he had no chance of beating Slick. Kemp disappointed me BIG TIME with his lackluster VP-candidate performance, too....

but times change - the 'Rats won by grabbing a bigger share of the middle in 2006 - unless we do the same we're gonna go down in 2008.

THAT is the lesson of the 2006 elections...

315 posted on 02/28/2007 11:25:57 AM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson
Most of my posts on this thread have either been Jim Robinson's views, which I agree with, or responses to vicious personal attacks similar to the ones you regularly employ.

You, as a fifth columnist disruptor, use JR positions to attempt to divide FReepers. I've read all of JR posts, and while disappointed that he gives fifth columnist scum the fodder to divide, I do support all the things he has said, and his assurance that he will be voting in the general. Evie, you fifth columnist, I support Duncan Hunter in spite of your vitriol, deceit and disruption. Jim has made all of his posts without the filthy alienating tactics you fifth columnist disruptors employ.

316 posted on 02/28/2007 11:26:05 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

I disagree with the moniker...RINO...you can say "social conservative in name only", but Republicans come in all shapes and sizes and the Republican Party encompasses more than one or two issues.

On this site, however, if a Republican differs from one plank in a strict conservative platform, they are tarred and feathered.

Me thinks you are confusing Republicanism with conservatism. The Republicans are closer in line with a conservative agenda than the democratic party will ever be, but they are not one in the same.


317 posted on 02/28/2007 11:26:11 AM PST by KsSunflower
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To: EternalVigilance

We only know each other according to screen names. There probably wouldn't be half the fighting going on here if people knew each other a bit better, and could find some common ground.

Unfortunately, the nature of politics doesn't allow for much of that.


318 posted on 02/28/2007 11:26:47 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Rex Anderson
When will Alan announce?

If history is any indicator, my guess would be after all the primaries are over and before the conventions begin.

319 posted on 02/28/2007 11:27:38 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: NinoFan
"Let's face the facts that unless most of the Rudy supporters are at heart social liberals, all they care about is low taxes and a pro-business climate. "

"Ain't that the truth."

Unless of course, they are also interested in national survival (WOT), and believe that Rudy will appoint conservative judges.

BTW, Nino fan - I had the great pleasure to meet and discuss Constitutional law with both Judge Bork and then Judge Scalia at the 1985 Federalist Convention in DC. Its a tragedy that Bork was kept off the bench due to 'Rat character assassination. How the decisions might have gone differently had he, and not Kennedy, been there since 1987....

320 posted on 02/28/2007 11:28:37 AM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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