Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Posted by Jim Robinson to BonnieJ
On News/Activism ^ 02/27/2007 7:09:45 PM CST · 38 of 549 ^
Hey, aren't you promoting the man who promotes homosexualism? Good for thee, but not for me??
Vote for Rudy!! The LogCabin Republican's choice!
We allow and in fact welcome anyone in our church service. They can even add to the offering plate, should they desire...even wiccans can attend, as long as they obey the rules, but we won't let Antione Levy preach in the pulpit.
Rinos are welcome to vote Republican, just don't ask to be the leader.
Exactly.
Your own obsession w/Keyes is what obsesses us, EV. We have long memories of your obsession w/him.....when is he going to announce his candidacy? I'm sure he will want to take advantage of your paving the way for him after slaying all the Republican dragons.
I am not talking at all about religious denominations or Christian identification.
I am talking about mainstream political polls over the past thirty years. They are consistent in showing self-identifying conservatives outnumbering self-identifying liberals two-to-one. Gallup, Harris, take your pick.
Now, it is true that moderates are usually as numerous or slightly more than conservatives, but that is not what I was talking about where you said I was "wrong."
I notice you haven't gotten an answer to that question for a couple of months now, have you?
There are always limits on compromise, though.
Like when the candidate supports all of the opposition party's positions, and none of our own.
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rooty Giuliani
I know this thread is supposed to be about issues, but since it has already pancaked, I have a question.
I enjoy a witty flame match as much as the next guy, but am I the ONLY one who thinks FR is overrun with a bunch of brittle hate filled strident moralists? I miss the Reagan days when the keynote was REDUCING GOVERNMENT and promoting freedom. Now it seems like every thread has a gaggle of clones of some bitter old geezer who is intent on alienating everyone not married to some arcane item of morality.
I liked it better when conservatives were happy and pro-liberty, rather than bitter legalist malcontents. By the way, I am a very devout Christian. I would say I am a "fundamentalist" but I am not mad at anyone about my faith. I am not anti-morality, just pro-freedom.
LOL It is just so predictable.
Your M.O. is to tear down any and all front runners, stay relatively quiet on those who may actually meet your conservative criteria, then Praise The Lord when Alan Keye$ decides to $ave The Country, all while $aving his income $tream.
I almost never bring him up. It's y'all who do. It's a fixation that is quite interesting to observe.
WELL SAID. Witty, too.
thanks
Looks about right to me; I wish they'd go ahead and pull the trigger.
None of the other Republicans I know are even thinking about any of the crap that are cutting and pasting here.
Gays and abortion just aren't going to be an issue in 2008.
Ping us all if you get anything close to an answer to that one.
You failed to answer my question about who you are FOR?
She says as she whistles past the graveyard...
I would agree with you 100 million percent.
I, like most Americans, have not picked a candidate.
But I assure you it won't be Mitt McRomney.
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