Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Yep.
I first became politically aware during the Kennedy administration and suffered through 1964-68. The folks who think it would be fun to take a turn as the minority party don't know what they're talking about.
Posted by Jim Robinson to Peach
On News/Activism ^ 02/27/2007 7:43:14 PM CST · 86 of 549 ^
Perhaps you'd better read up on the gay agenda. Your man supports the gay agenda all the way. Maybe you missed it, but Rudy talks it up, lives it up, plays the part. You might say he talks the talk and walks the walk (but the swagger is not due to the gun on the hip).
That is just wrong.
Yup.
ROTFLMAO! Good thing I already had my morning coffee . . .
Hey, that reminds me... EV, when is Alan Keyes planning on announcing his candidacy?
Posted by Jim Robinson to DLfromthedesert
On News/Activism ^ 02/27/2007 7:37:10 PM CST · 80 of 549 ^
The next thing you're gonna tell me is that Rudy really doesn't believe that Abortion is a constitutional right or that he really doesn't believe guns are evil. He was just kidding about all that stuff too, right?
Go Rudy!! Abortion is RIGHT! Gay UNION forever!! Guns are EVIL!!
The strong front seat driver was that guy Gingrich, which pretty well proves Simmons' point. Don't try to narrow the field too soon, or we will regret that lack of viable choices to oppose Hillary.
And, please don't try to teach us more lessons. I note that some thought turning Congress over to Democrats would instill in them the responsibility that usually accompanies leadership and control. Boy, were some people fooled. Many suckers were born on election day back in 2006.
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Because he continues to obsessively post to me, I just might have to resort to hitting the abuse.
Nah, he's funny and entertaining.
The Clinton years have deteriorated our republic in many ways, and I believe they have rotted out a good part of the electorate.
one could come to the realization that either way means putting the Democrats in power for a long long time.
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See California for an example.. folks were warned...
the dems haven't lost their step in fulfilling a socialist agenda since aRnie came aboard with a Kennedy in each ear..
Posted by Jim Robinson to Peach
On News/Activism ^ 02/27/2007 7:16:02 PM CST · 45 of 549 ^
Hey, Rudy gets off on promoting this stuff himself. Who am I to deny the man's stated and demonstrated beliefs? He has no problem whatsoever with homosexualism. Do you? Are you homophobic all of a sudden or what!
Two daddies or two mommies are perfectly normal and a good thing for growing children.
Go Rudy!!
I'll keep campaigning for and voting for people who represent me and my personal beliefs.
Rugdy does not, and to ask me to turn my back on my principles is unworthy of a Freeper.
That could very well happen. I just don't believe you can
have it one way without the other. If a Democrat shoould win the White House, there should be no blame placed on the other half of the GOP that rejected their nominee.
Once EV stirs up enough division in the online Republican community then he will report back to his master, Alan Keyes, who..when done licking his chops, will announce his Constitution Party run for President and commence the online fundraising campaign.
'course, that's just a guess.
Since your full time job here is tearing down the Republican candidates, WHO are you FOR? (besides yourself and Keyes)
I AM looking at poll data. I'm gonna make a flying guess at where you're getting that number. Identifying yourself as "Christian" is not the same as identifying yourself as "conservative". Those numbers are further broken down by denomination into "conservative" and "liberal". Thus you can have an overwhelming majority of Evangelical Protestants who identify themselves as conservative but you can have an overwhelming majority of Democrat say.... Catholics.
Waiting in the wings no doubt; the coffers must be near dry from 2004.
Which reminds me of something else... EV, when Alan Keyes throws his hat into the ring, will he pay himself a salary of $10,000 A MONTH out of campaign donations, like he has done before?
You guys are obsessed with Alan Keyes. I find that interesting.
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