Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
I figured out that this is what you think the first 500 times you posted it, troll. Like I said, you need a new script.
There is one way you can prove you're not a filthy pretend conservative, disrupting and dividing whenever you can. Simple! Stop posting disruptive and divisive nonsense.
Your scenario is an easily-avoided one. All the GOP has to do is nominate someone who represents conservative principles to keep the Reagan coalition intact.
Says the man who has stalked me from thread to thread for several years posting the same disruptive and divisive nonsense.
I have no clue what that loser is up to, but he sure is pushing the envelope.
What an idiot.
Being stupid and nasty is a really bad way to try to end nastiness.
Be gone, troll.
He is on record supporting Clinton's veto of the PBA ban in 1997. That bill and every subsequent bill has had a "life of the mother exception". Pardon me if I find his recent comments less than trustworthy, especially since he tried to claim it was no different than his previous position.
The price for this will be very high indeed.
Who's conservative principles? The traditional GOP principles, or yours?
You are not going to rewrite GOP history on my watch. These principles you espouse are social conservative crap that comes from one single faction in the party who are late comers to the dance.
What is happening, is a refutation of of those ideas that you brought with you, and notification that they will not be the issues we will be debating this cycle.
You can reject, accept or just go away. Nobody cares or gives a damn what you do from here on.
That is the message.
Hear it.
EVie, I'm only trying to divide you. You're trying to alienate anyone and everyone you can.
Come on, EVie, you're confusing your identities now. (Again)
I understand that arguement in favor of Guiliani, personally I won't default to him based on polls. I think Gingrich can address those issue if he runs. And who knows, maybe Romney can get to a point where more than a third of voters have an opinion, or Hunter to where they'll include him in the polls. The numbers being discussed above were from the Jan 30-31 Fox poll.
The RINO recipe for electoral success. Tell pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-God conservatives to go to hell.
Fact is, it's your attitude, one that is held by far too many Republican "leaders" and party hacks, that has brought us to the current pass.
Both Rudy and Hunter are on record as opposing PBA unless the mother's life is at stake.
Seems there has been a lot of lying going on by the RudyHaters club
Well if he's a Troll, he one who has been here longer than I
68 grunt
Since Feb 25, 1998
Because someone disagrees with you dose not make them a Troll.
As a Freeper told me years ago "Freerepublic..where political debate is a contact sport".
If he runs, I'll be voting for Gingrich in the primaries. Based on todays data, the Republican with the best chance of winning in the general, 20 months away so the data is worthless, is clearly Rucy. But if things look the way they do today in Feb, I'll still vote for Gingrich. Just one of the choices on makes.
The primary process is important though. The majority of voters have no opinion at all about Romney. Maybe that's a plus in a way, but winning the primary requires he correct that. If he can't in the next 10 months, he won't be able to in the general. Primaries are a test of political skill.
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