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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

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To: Valin
Rudy is a one weird guy. If he get's the nomination the press will have plenty of fodder with which to destroy him. And they will.

Mitt doesn't have that kind of baggage. And I wouldn't put it past him to play rough if he has to.

1,981 posted on 03/02/2007 7:31:04 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: SJackson
Based on negatives, Hillary doesn't stand a chance

Yes, and the D's will be stupid if they nominate her. Let's not follow them in their stupidity to nominate someone on our side with even HIGHER negatives. (Hillary's are 48% last time I saw, and as it was pointed out, Newt's are in the 60's.)

1,982 posted on 03/02/2007 7:31:49 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: TAdams8591
I think Mitt is the only canndidate with the appeal to beat either Hillary or Obama.

The best way to demonstrate that is by winning the nomination. If he can beat Rudy, I'd agree.

1,983 posted on 03/02/2007 7:32:13 AM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Hey EVie, you and your alter ego, Fiercie, show up to continue the agitation? How many people can you push over the limit today, you fifth columnist disruptor? How many are you going to alienate today, disruptor?


1,984 posted on 03/02/2007 7:35:09 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: bjs1779

I can't imagine voting for a pro-abortion candidate. Who will he nominate to the Supreme Court, anti-abortionists?


Mayor Rudy Giuliani on the campaign trail
The Hugh Hewitt Show
2-23-07 at 6:11 PM
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/Transcript_Page.aspx?ContentGuid=946ea11b-064a-4272-90d2-1e2eda6678f4
(snip)

HH: You know, you picked up Ted Olson’s endorsement, taking a digression. That’s a big deal. Will he be playing a role in your campaign?


RG: He sure will. I mean, Ted Olson is someone I have…first of all, he’s a very, very good friend. I mean, he’s someone…he’s been my friend since those days, and we’ve been through a lot together. Yes, Ted will play a very big role in my campaign, and I mean, if Ted weren’t my very, very good friend, he’d be somebody I’d still want to rely on as probably one of the biggest experts on the Constitution in this country, and the person who probably has argued before the Supreme Court more than anybody I know.


HH: He or Judge Starr, one of those two are the two most…


RG: He or Ken have probably argued before the Supreme Court more than anyone that I know, and their knowledge of it is remarkable. I mean, it’s a great asset to anybody.


HH: Will he help you pick judges if you are the president, and you’re making Supreme Court selections?


RG: He’d be one of the first people that I’d turn to for advice and help and assistance. And I was involved in the Reagan administration in the judge selection process, although that was run by the deputy attorney general, and I was involved in the U.S. attorneys and U.S. marshals. But I watched all of it, and I appointed 100 judges myself. And it’s something I thought of, when I was the Mayor, as one of the most important things that I did.


HH: Did you have a litmus test for those hundred?


RG: No. No, not a litmus test on a single issue, a philosophical test, meaning what I wanted to know was what’s their view of how you interpret the Constitution and laws? Are they…do the Constitution and laws exist as the thing from which you have to discern the meaning and the intent? Or are you going to superimpose your own social views? And I want, I like the first kind of judge, who is a judge who looks to the meaning of the Constitution, doesn’t try to create it.


HH: A pro-life voter looking at you, knowing that you’re pro-choice, but not concerned that presidents really matter so much in that, except as far as judges are concerned, what do you tell them about who you’re going to be putting on the federal bench?


RG: I’m going to say I’d put people like…I mean, the best way to do it is to just say I would, I could just have easily have appointed Sam Alito or Chief Justice Roberts as President Bush did, in fact. I’d have been pretty proud of myself if I had been smart enough to make that choice if I were the president.


HH: Do you expect justices like Roberts and Alito to come out of a Giuliani administration?


RG: I hope. I mean, that would be my goal. I mean, they’re sort of a very high standard, and so is Justices Scalia and Thomas. That would be the kind of judges I would look for, both in terms of their background and their integrity, but also the intellectual honesty with which they interpret the law.


1,985 posted on 03/02/2007 7:36:17 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Dang Francie, stop with all your homo crap, will ya?


1,986 posted on 03/02/2007 7:37:23 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Blackirish
SAME AS HUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe that if one side should be able to use this humiliating, objectionable and offending strict definition of an 'abortionist', then fair turn about is fair trade.

1,987 posted on 03/02/2007 7:40:26 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: SJackson
"The best way to demonstrate that is by winning the nomination"

Actually, that is not necessarily true. The best way to demonstrate it is by winning in the genral, which of course cannot happen unless one wins the nomination. Republicans don't always pick the nominee who can win, unfortunately.

1,988 posted on 03/02/2007 7:41:09 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Do you have a link, please? Internet traffic is something I normally don't follow.


1,989 posted on 03/02/2007 7:42:21 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

You need a new script, troll.


1,990 posted on 03/02/2007 7:44:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
What about Duncan Hunter as a running mate.

Flips my switch.
1,991 posted on 03/02/2007 7:47:20 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, Dims Gone Wild, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Valin
"I hope. I mean, that would be my goal. I mean, they’re sort of a very high standard, and so is Justices Scalia and Thomas. That would be the kind of judges I would look for, both in terms of their background and their integrity, but also the intellectual honesty with which they interpret the law."

A guy who supports abortion as strongly as Rudy is going to appoint Judges who would have ROE overturned? Sorry, it's just not believable.

1,992 posted on 03/02/2007 7:48:06 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: TAdams8591
They're already taking shots at him. The DBM is playing wack-a-mole with him and Mitt, and it's Rudy's turn. So far the only one of the 'leading" candidates that they won't go after (at this time) is a certain senator from AZ.
As for the others (Duncan Hunter..etc) they have to show me that they can win, that they have the org, fund raising, pr flacks and the ability to (I'm not sure how to put this) speak to the American voter(?). Until they can do that I can't take them seriously.
That being said it's a long long time till NH, Iowa..etc and anytthing can happen...and probably will.

I'm not ready to drink anyones kool-aid at this time.

1,993 posted on 03/02/2007 7:48:16 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Hey EVie, last I remember you hadn't picked a candidate to destroy support, has that changed yet? Or are you still just trying to save us from ourselves. Why don't you and Fiercie give me another simultaneous post, it keeps you off a thread longer while you compose the both of them.
1,994 posted on 03/02/2007 7:52:27 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Valin
"and the ability to (I'm not sure how to put this) speak to the American voter(?)."

I call it charisma. No matter how much money Hunter raises, it won't change the fact that he hasn't got it.

1,995 posted on 03/02/2007 7:53:12 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: Valin
"and the ability to (I'm not sure how to put this) speak to the American voter(?)."

I call it charisma. No matter how much money Hunter raises, it won't change the fact that he hasn't got it.

1,996 posted on 03/02/2007 7:53:13 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: 68 grunt

Shut up. Your repeated claim that I post under more than one sn is a flat out lie. Trollish.


1,997 posted on 03/02/2007 7:54:14 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: TAdams8591

Double posting around #2000 ??????? ooow ooow oow :^>


1,998 posted on 03/02/2007 7:54:50 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: EternalVigilance
Its a fact, you are a disruptor and divider. You try and separate anyone you can. I think you're despicable and the worst thing that can happen to conservatism.
1,999 posted on 03/02/2007 7:56:27 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt; Fierce Allegiance; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

FA, this stalking troll keeps making this claim. Any comments for him?


2,000 posted on 03/02/2007 7:58:30 AM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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