Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: Common Tator in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
That's beyond the scope of what I was addressing. Make that be part of the debate when the people decide. But if we are going to be mature and principled conservatives, who have been saying 'leave it up to the states' for 30+ years now, we have to be prepared to honor the states' decision on the issue.
Either that or we will look like we were talking out of our @ss for 30+ years, and we don't want that.
WHAT? you are out of your mind lady!
YOU, my dear nopardons made this thread about me and EVERY other person on that thread.
YOU, dear nopardons started this. and my post last night, which you REFUSED to acknowledge was about YOU!
I have noticed something very interesting about you. when someone hits a nerve or posts something you dont like, you lash out and say oh its always about you or some other nastiness to deflect them away. you are SO bloody obvious i am ROFL!
Big deal about Rudy. Have your little anti family values guy, more power to ya:-)
And btw, like i said i want to enjoy my evening and you know that. quit trying to be coy.
GOODNIGHT dear nopardons!
Do you know that Hunter says that birth control pills should be outlawed, because they're the same as abortions? And no, he wasn't talking about the morning after pill. Just wait until THAT gets widely known! LOL
Hey nopardons, i said goodnight! Im startin to think youre all sweet on me or something;-)
*wink, wink*
Jim, got anything to say about this comment regarding "the same suspects", which must be me since this was posted in reply to my post to you? Did I want Terri Schiavo dead?
While we're on the subject, where does your guy Hunter stand wrt Terri Schiavo? (hint: see my tagline)
Nah, I just think someone is all sweet on me;)
Well i could make it all about ME, but it would be SO boring LOL
Hows your night going so far? :-)
You've said that multiple times. Back it up with a link.
C'mon Rudy folks dont need know stinken links. Your so silly! /s
know=no geez!
Placemarker ...
One non-vote that is of concern is his inability to throw on a pair of pants and go vote for the Terri Schiavo Incapacitated Persons Protection Bill. Find the link yourself, it's true.
That ain't how it works, Registered, and you know better. Those who make the assertion have the responsibility to back it up.
Omygosh, thats it, im switching!! im all for rudy now-hes my hero. that dirty rat hunter. Hes WAY worse than that gay lovin, gun grabbin, skirt wearin, pro homo dude! thanks so much for enlightening me. phew, i almost made a terrible mistake. /extreme sarcasm.
Question #2 - am I pro-abortion? Am I FOR Rudy? You have my permission to post my comments regarding both here.
I am not trying to convince you to vote or not vote for Rudy.
well you know id much rather hear from HUNTERS own lips why he didnt vote then folks who obviously have nothing better to do with thier free time then dig up dirt on a guy who according to them has ZERO chance of winning.
oh and put it in thier taglines too. isnt that precious;)
Some may think Hunter supporter fear rootie tootie, the truth is the social liberals here are scared to death of hunter.
Nice try though:-)
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