Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons
Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002
The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.
Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.
Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.
There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.
When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.
Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.
But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.
This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.
When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.
Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.
If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.
To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.
Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.
Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.
If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.
Now is the time to make a principled stand for the candidate who most closely matches your own ideological beliefs regardless of funds raised or current level of support. It is way to early to be railroaded into supporting who seems to be the most electable candidate at the time.
As a seasoned MINO (moderate in name only), I plan to push for my favorite candidate now but when the GOP chooses their man, I will be behind him (or her) no matter what for the sole reason that I cant stand to picture First Husband Bill Clinton wandering around the white house again with his bathrobe open, scratching himself and hitting on interns while the world burns.
In the HTML "Crayola", they're "Tomato" and "Skyblue", and "Yellow"
ROTFL, Weasel
2000 TOGA!
I'm fearful it won't either. This is even worse thatn the Shciavo battles or the Buchanan wars.
Everyone, including the esteemed owner of this forum, is leading the charge against Rudy, but offer no alternative.
It obviously ain't McCain. 0-2% Hunter??
I don't even like to come to this forum right now.
The venom here is awful, and since it's nearly a year before anyone gets to cast a vote, I don't see it getting better.
It makes me sick. This was a great forum and we're in a circular firing squad.
Who cares what a Linguini D**K like you thinks?
(I was told this was acceptable discourse on FR... by You)
youngjim: It's over Bluto . . . people are too tired to argue on this thread all nite.
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the f happened to the Freepers I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my @ss from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: LET'S DO IT!
yep, sure are :0)
BTW ... I see not much has changed on these threads .. almost like being back in grade school
I can see now why you have problems with Rudy. That really sucks.
Yes indeed. Bravo!
Ha! Ha! One of my favorite scenes.
You desrve the Westboro Baptist Wednesday Award!
Congrats!
that was sarcasm.
Well done again, youngjim. I nominate you for driving the EatMe cake wagon into the stands;)
An early signup date is no indication that a person has been here for years fighting for conservative goals. I have an early signup date on my account at DU, but that is no indication that I've been on that website for years fighting for liberal goals.
I don't think Jim should stand up for anyone who is trying to divide this forum and put down conservative values no matter what there sign-up date happens to be or how well they have toed the line in the past.
Unlike ANY other GOPer in elected office, Rudy, ALONE, has not only stood up against blasphemous and degrading, purported "art" and won the battle.
As a Christian, have you been disgusted by PISS CHRIST and other such government, tax payer funded garbage being served up top the public?
As a Catholic, were you upset about a "painting" of the Virgin Mary smeared with dung and her portrait being encircled by porno pictures of naked vulvae, from some lewd magazine? Well, Rudy is the one that got that and other such garabge taken out of the Brooklyn Museum of Art!
He is also responsible for getting porn shops and hookers out of Times Square and also in neighborhoods...especially near schools!
He's also gone after drug dealers and gang bangers and the Mafia and won! It was he, RUDY GIULIANI, who went after and got Mark Rich convicted!
Words are a dime a dozen; acts to match those words are rare.
That was sarcasm to prove a point of the Rudy bashers.
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