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Is Driving Rinos out of the GOP Good for the Country? Thought-Provoking Must-Read for Rudy-Haters.
FR | April 16, 2002 | Common Tator

Posted on 02/28/2007 7:54:19 AM PST by Al Simmons

Wedge Issues Posted by: “Common Tator” in FreeRepublic.com April 16, 2002

The one thing that amazes me on this site is the belief by some that the conservative position is the majority position.

Mostly people tend to believe it could be the majority position if the right candidate ran, or if it weren't for the media or RINOs or etc, etc. They really don't have a clue.

Roughly 2/3 of the public has firm views. They have made up their minds and do not change them. This group is nearly equally split between the left and the right.

There are about a 1/3 of the population that is never sure. Sometimes it will go left and sometimes it will go right.

When a party restricts itself to its base it will be in a minority party. The "base only" party will be reduced to crying as the other side works its will. In some nations both the left and right restrict themselves to just their base. That nation then develops five or six parties. And all governments in that nation are coalitions of a major party and some of the minor parties. In that situation the minor party always has more influence than its numbers represent. For the Rino and Dino haters that is the worst of all worlds.

Many of Rino and Dino haters try to make ours a 3 or 4 party system. They never figure out that their splinter right or left party would never get much power in a government based on coalitions. They are too small. It is the centrist parties that have a 1/3 of the public as potential members that get the clout in the Multi Party system. As you can see in a 2 party or a 5 or 6 party system the center tends to prevail.

But in our two party system the center is an instrument the major parties use to enact their goals. In the multiparty system it is the center parties that use the right and left to enact their centrist goals. Such a system like those in Italy and France are RINO and DINO paradise.

This nation now and for all of the last 140 years has been roughly 1/3 left, 1/3 right and 1/3 in the middle. Those in the middle who run for office are what we call RINOs and DINOs.

When Republicans drive RINOs out they leave the party to become DINOs and take their political power with them. The Democrat party gets them by default.

Then the Democrats thanks to its Dino buddies have a veto proof house and senate. It was Barry Goldwater's greatest accomplishment. In my BRAIN I knew Barry would elect a lot of DINOs ... and he did.

If a party with most of the center wins the presidency too, they have a filibuster proof senate. That party then can do anything it wants to do. When the party leadership takes control they implement the parties’ core beliefs. It was what LBJ did after Goldwater drove all the RINOs into LBJ's camp. It let LBJ do the "Great Society." LBJ had to have Barry's help to do it. And Barry did what it took to give LBJ the support he needed... LBJ had all the left. Barry gave him all the center.

To win control a party must keep its base and get over half the middle. If the Republicans have more RINOs than the Democrats have DINOs the Republican agenda prevails. If the Democrats have more DINOs than the Republicans have RINOs the Democrat agenda prevails.

Those that demand the defeat of RINOs are doing all they can to enact the leftist agenda. They are the most valuable asset the left has. One of the most effective tactics in politics in the negative campaign.

Negative campaigns are not about getting votes for your candidate. They are about getting the other side's base to not vote for their candidate. Thus if you can get the right to vote against a Rino or not vote at all, you can elect a very liberal candidate.

If you can force the Republicans to nominate a right wing candidate so right wing he can't get the center voters, you elect the left candidate.


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KEYWORDS: 11thcommandment; 1dumbvanity; dinos; duncanhunter; fanatics; fauxreaganites; giuliani; rinos; rinotalkingpoints; rudy; yesrinosmustgo
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To: Giant Conservative

Oh YES he will! Then what will you do? :-)


1,461 posted on 02/28/2007 7:11:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Rokke
"FR won't survive this bloodletting."

And I won't survive if I don't turn this Internet off and finish my work.

If we get to 2000 posts tomorrow I will be amazed.

1,462 posted on 02/28/2007 7:11:55 PM PST by Al Simmons (Why Rudy in 2008? Because National Security should not be left to children.)
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To: Al Simmons

Of course you'll get 2,000 posts.


1,463 posted on 02/28/2007 7:12:40 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: Al Simmons
If we get to 2000 posts tomorrow I will be amazed.

We'll try not to let you down. LOL

1,464 posted on 02/28/2007 7:13:48 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: onyx
"LOL! GOOD to see you, stranger!!!"

Well I had to jump in somewhere. I was getting a little jealous.

1,465 posted on 02/28/2007 7:13:51 PM PST by Rokke
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To: Giant Conservative
No, he isn't, but if that is all you have in your quiver, then it will do you no good at all.
1,466 posted on 02/28/2007 7:14:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: donozark
As to Rudy? Unless and until he mends fences with the NRA/GOA/RKBA crowd he has ZERO chance of getting our vote. He is the consummate gun-grabber. Not sure at this late date, and after so many transgressions he can change our opinion of him.

I certainly am not a one-issue voter but there is no way that I am going to vote for a candidate whose record shows that he would use the government to try to take my guns from me.

If that man gets the nomination, I stay at home on election day, and I really don't care if I am blamed for all that the Democrats do thereafter. My answer is: put up a good candidate or face the consequences.

1,467 posted on 02/28/2007 7:15:37 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Al Simmons
Ian the Great says: "RINO hunting is OK"
1,468 posted on 02/28/2007 7:15:48 PM PST by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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To: Al Simmons

I want you to be amazed...;)


1,469 posted on 02/28/2007 7:15:55 PM PST by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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To: Delphinium

Well this is the rankest thread so far. Im so SICK of the cryin, whining, wha wha wha. My GAWD i dont even take that from my son.

We get baited, or hooked according to the author and then get called whores and lord knows what else.

But alas THEY are the victims, what total utter BS!


1,470 posted on 02/28/2007 7:15:59 PM PST by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Clemenza

Enough already with you salacious posts.


1,471 posted on 02/28/2007 7:16:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: EternalVigilance; Spiff; narses; dirtboy; Delphinium; jimrob
I mentioned you guys and forgot to ping you. Sorry. My bad! See it here: LINK
1,472 posted on 02/28/2007 7:16:16 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: youngjim

LOL! A little comic relief goes a long way.


1,473 posted on 02/28/2007 7:16:32 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: youngjim; BigSkyFreeper

btweim: My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.
BigSkyFreeper: Better listen to him, youngjim. He's pre-med.


1,474 posted on 02/28/2007 7:17:26 PM PST by bwteim (bwteim = begin with the end in mind)
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To: Al Simmons

Gratuitous post to help surprise you...


1,475 posted on 02/28/2007 7:17:34 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rokke

LOL --- you're too sweet to me too. I am happy, happy to see you.


1,476 posted on 02/28/2007 7:17:36 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: Blackirish
Woman sure slap you around a lot......I guess you dig it.

This coming from a guy who supports a candidate who is a drag queen. Why am I not impressed?

1,477 posted on 02/28/2007 7:17:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("Liberalism": Now in two delicious Party Flavors!)
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To: bwteim
bwteim: From now on, your Delta Phi Kau name is.... WEASEL!

BSF: Why weasel?

bwteim: *belch* WHY NOT!

:)

When we hit 2,000, it's "TOGA!" lol
1,478 posted on 02/28/2007 7:19:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Al Simmons

Whatever you say. Electing an abortionist is not surrendering to abortion. Got it.


1,479 posted on 02/28/2007 7:19:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson (It's "originalists" not "constructionists.")
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To: Howlin

You have mail.


1,480 posted on 02/28/2007 7:21:00 PM PST by nopardons
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