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New House ~ New Handgun ... any advice?
February 27, 2007 | Vanity

Posted on 02/27/2007 4:29:26 AM PST by Elle Bee

I'm 90 miles from Cuba and I'm going to purchase a new handgun for a new house.

I'm thinking .45 ... Kimber

I'm open to all opinion and option.

I'm still holding out the thought of a revolver over an automatic for ease of maintenance in the subtropics

These threads are always informative and I would appreaciate your input before I make a final decision.

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TOPICS: US: Florida; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 45; banglist; chat; cuba; handgun; homeprotection
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To: KarinG1
I'd recommend you seek professional help in the form of a handgun training class before you buy anything. You'll be able to make a better informed decision and your instructor will probably be happy to help you decide what is best for your needs. Knowing you personally, his advice would be much more valuable than mine.

I have a little knowledge (that's dangerous) but in Key West I'm much more likely to find a dance instructor

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101 posted on 02/27/2007 6:07:48 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Fred911
Instead of the 1911, get a pair of Smiths....one for the bedside drawer and one for the road! That's a handsome grip

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102 posted on 02/27/2007 6:08:55 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: VeniVidiVici
I like the grip AND the case

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103 posted on 02/27/2007 6:10:12 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: DainBramage
Im not an expert but 90 miles is a long shot with a handgun.

LOL - well duh ! ....heres the other half of the plan

Castro will be so pissed

104 posted on 02/27/2007 6:10:50 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Sax
Is absolutely true

I call bullshit on this. WHAT IS THE DISPERSION AT 10 ft? Don't believe me? it's easy enough to prove for yourself. Put up a piece of paper and shoot it from 10 feet away. See for yourself.

Chances are that this isn't a para-military assault on your home

You never know what goes through the mind of an assailant. If you want to give away the advantage go for it. You have to realize that someone in your house is not there to tell you you won the publisher's clearing house sweepstakes. I prefer for their first knowledge of me to be when my rounds hit.

105 posted on 02/27/2007 6:13:40 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Elle Bee
...the police are basically bar bouncers

They're great with that crime-scene tape...

106 posted on 02/27/2007 6:15:14 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: from occupied ga

Ok Dirty Harry, you play commando, my folks will play the odds.


107 posted on 02/27/2007 6:15:32 AM PST by Sax
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To: timydnuc; Elle Bee; tx_eggman
Put this in your head and keep it there, you don't want to hurt this guy, you want to kill stop him. Or, he will kill you and your family.

I definitely recommend you take a qualified concealed handgun class, even if you do not intend to carry. Legally speaking, in Texas anyway, you never intend to kill anyone. You intend to stop them from intruding/stealing/hurting/killing you or your loved ones.

If you had to stop him by emptying your magazine... so be it... but you never intended to kill anyone ;)
108 posted on 02/27/2007 6:17:15 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: Kolb
Smith and Wesson model 629 revolver, .44mag, 5" barrel in stainless steel.

Try it at the range just before dusk and you'll see that the 629 produces excellent fireballs just forward of the chambers, about 1 foot in diameter. They really add to the thrill of shooting that monster.

I used to have a Model 29 with Pachmyer grips and it was the finest pistol I've ever owned.

109 posted on 02/27/2007 6:21:54 AM PST by angkor
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To: BobinIL

I also have a G21, a very soft shooting .45 and extremely accurate.

This year, supposedly in the earlier part of it, Glock will be releasing their slimmer framed G21 called the G21SF. This model will have a reduced grip dimension which will appeal to shooters with smaller hands (a frequent concern to those who have held the current model). Also new to this pistol will be an ambidextrous magazine release and the option of a 1913 style picatinny rail for more weapon-light mounting options.

This leads me into also recommending that the purchaser of any firearm for home defense seriously consider the purchase of a high quality weapon-light and/or handheld to more clearly identify their potential target. Output of 60 lumens or more is ideal for this task, along with a momentary or constant-on switch option. Surefire, Streamlight, Pentagon, and other quality manufacturers are worth checking out.


110 posted on 02/27/2007 6:22:52 AM PST by xander
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To: johnny7
Shotguns are good for room-to-room...

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Shotguns are horrible for room to room. Here's why...

You need two hands.

Shotguns are a lot easier to wrestle away from you than any handgun.

Try this...

Turn off the lights. Put a broomstick in your hands. Walk downstairs (or room to room) with it ready to 'shoot'. Have someone bigger and stronger than you waiting somewhere in the house try to take the broomstick away.

Do this and you will change your mind.

111 posted on 02/27/2007 6:25:25 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: Sax
Ok Dirty Harry, you play commando, my folks will play the odds

Your bullshit advice could get someone killed, so skip the insults and use your brain. If you want to play macho man and challenge someone in your house go for it, but just remember you give away an advantage when you do so.

112 posted on 02/27/2007 6:28:11 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: wtc911
Shotguns are horrible for room to room. Here's why...

Finally someone with some sense.

113 posted on 02/27/2007 6:29:13 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: BTCM
but you live in a very bad area of Northern Cuba.

Is that what we're calling South Florida now? :)

114 posted on 02/27/2007 6:33:23 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: STONEWALLS
1.an investigation WILL be held 2.the county DA will decide whether to prosecute me or not (

Same here in Virginia and probably most states. My understanding from the CCW legal trainer (5 years ago) was that the DA is either to charge with 2nd degree homocide or to press no charges at all. There is no "right to self defense" in any Virginia statute.

If one has the misfortune to prosecuted for defending the household - or sued by a wounded perp in civil court (whoops, that shouldn't happen) - IMO it's important to recognize that the firearm itself will also be on trial. So you want it to be a generic, plain-Jane model and not a Darth Vader "tactical" combat shotgun or a 50 cal Desert Eagle. A generic hunting shotgun and a conventional 38 or 357 pistol are far less likely to make you (the defendant) look like a kooky gun nut who was just looking for trouble.

Just my opinion.

115 posted on 02/27/2007 6:40:09 AM PST by angkor
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To: Jaxter

why do people always recommend a .357 then tell people to practice with .38?
bad practice. if you shoot .38 out of your gun regularly you're much more likely to miss, and not be able to recover when you blow that first round of .357 at a goblin.
if you're gonna shoot .357 you need to practice .357 until you get used to the recoil. then maybe use .38 for plinking.
if you're gonna recommend .38, then suggest they find an old police gun. those are the most inexpensive, good quality guns out there.


116 posted on 02/27/2007 6:40:30 AM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: Elle Bee
Plating will flake off over time and can be damaged by repeated knocking about leaving unprotected bare steel exposed to the elements.

Stainless doesn't have any of those shortcomings IMO.

L

117 posted on 02/27/2007 6:46:06 AM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Elle Bee
That post gives me almost enough info. I'm guessing with the Kimber question in the first post you do have at least a medium level of experience with fire arms. You're big and like .45acp... try Sig 220 the factory refurbished police trade ins are running in the $350 to $450 range when ordered from someone like CDNN. You will not find a more reliable handgun than the Sigs. As others, I also think a 12ga pump is in order and I keep a loaded rifle in the house, something that holds 20 to 40 rounds. AR, AK, FAL, H&K; they all can do the job.
118 posted on 02/27/2007 6:53:15 AM PST by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member)
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To: Elle Bee
Go with the Mossberg 500 Mariner shotgun for your locale and situation. Not bad to have with you if you are out in a boat in those waters. Back it up with a .357 magnum revolver. Also, has anyone mentioned tactical lights? Helps to see what you are shooting in the dark. You have to live with the consequences after the shoot. Range time is good but practicing for the real thing is better. Check out IDPA There is an affiliate in Key Largo. That will be the best investment you can make, bar none.
119 posted on 02/27/2007 6:54:19 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: SpinnerWebb; timydnuc; Elle Bee; tx_eggman

I concur that taking an NRA handgun and/or self defense course would be an excellent idea even if you're not getting a CCW.

We had 4 or 5 roatating instructors who covered different topics, all valuable info.

Best were (1) the state police officer who explained CCW and use of force from the LEO perspective (including citizen use of force), and (2) the well-known 2nd Amendment attorney who explained that "If they don't already have a weapon, home invaders will *always* grab the biggest and ugliest knife from your kitchen drawer. Always."


120 posted on 02/27/2007 6:58:52 AM PST by angkor
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