Posted on 02/23/2007 5:50:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
The cave in which Jesus Christ was buried has been found in Jerusalem, claim the makers of a new documentary film.
If it proves true, the discovery, which will be revealed at a press conference in New York Monday, could shake up the Christian world as one of the most significant archeological finds in history.
The coffins which, according to the filmmakers held the remains of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene will be displayed for the first time on Monday in New York.
Jointly produced by Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici and Oscar winning director James Cameron, the film tells the exciting and tortuous story of the archaeological discovery.
The story starts in 1980 in Jerusalem’s Talpiyot neighborhood, with the discovery of a 2,000 year old cave containing ten coffins. Six of the ten coffins were carved with inscriptions reading the names: Jesua son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Matthew, Jofa (Joseph, identified as Jesus’ brother), Judah son of Jesua (Jesus’ son - the filmmakers claim).
Decades of research
The findings in the cave, including the decipherment of the inscriptions, were first revealed about ten years ago by internationally renowned Israeli archeologist Professor Amos Kloner.
Since their discovery, the caskets were kept in the Israeli Antiquities Authority archive in Beit Shemesh, but now two have been sent to New York for their first public exhibition.
Although the cave was discovered nearly 30 years ago and the casket inscriptions decoded ten years ago, the filmmakers are the first to establish that the cave was in fact the burial site of Jesus and his family.
The film, which documents the stages of the discovery, is the result of three years labor and research. It will be broadcast on the international Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada’s Vision and Israel’s Channel 8, which also took part in the film's production.
According to the filmmakers, the film’s claim is based on close work with world-famous scientists, archeologists, statisticians, DNA specialists and antiquities experts.
LOL
"By now he stinketh!"
Do you get this information from the Bible?
Those guys were pretty worthless; eh?
Jesus is no myth. Even from a secular point of view. There are extra-biblical writings about a man named Jesus stirring things up with the local Jewish leaders and ultimately crucified. If I recall correctly it was Pliny the Elder (though there are other accounts).
Yea, right and we have some ocean front property in West Virginia for sale cheap.
But there would have been no burial after the Resurrection, because Jesus ascended directly into heaven.
This doesn't bother me, because I'm in the legal system, and that's how the legal system works. Each side of a controversy gives it their best shot (including attacking the methods, motivations, biases, and intentions -- if not the personal appearance and private proclivities -- of the other side), and let the chips fall where they may.
The adversarial system is not a perfect system, and it makes for hurt feelings along the way, but it is the best system that has ever been tried. The alternative is something like the French courts, where instead of being adversarial the lawyers are theoretically embarked on a "search for truth". What that means in practice is that everybody THINKS they know the truth, and they don't dig deep. Sometimes it turns out they're wrong, as in the case of poor Dreyfus.
I'm just temperamentally on the side of the skeptics, because in my line of work I have seen some very, very clever frauds. As a sentencing judge once said in my hearing, "If you boys would try as hard at honest work as you do at trying to cheat people, you'd be on easy street plus you wouldn't have to go where I'm about to send you . . . "
Yep the roman guard didn't stand a chance against the Angel.
Kind of like saying that the Mormon writings are no myth because there was a man named Smith at that time....
ok...so who's tomb is it in Jerusalem right now where prayers are being offered up in front of it 24/7?
How does that not qualify now?
Actually, far better than the adversarial system is the market place.
Anyone who wants to believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn, or her many brothers or sisters are free to so act. Anyone who doesn't want to believe in Zeus-Pater, Jupiter, Yahweh, Jehovah, or his Wife the Holy Sprit, his Son the Magic Mushroom, Allah, Muhummed, Ali, or the 12th Iman or what ever are free to not believe.
That latter is called freedom.
So long as the Government doesn't get involved in coercion, I have no argument with any believer (but reserve my right to snicker).
Ok philosopher, any evidence?
Schicklegruber (aka Hitler) went to the museum where said lance was kept. He claimed to his friends that he handled it, and absorbed its energy.
As I recollect, the "brother of Jesus" part was added in the 4th century as part of a flurry of fraudulence that was associated with the Official Government Acceptance of Christianity.
"A friend who believed the Da Vinci code said to me.."Just look at the Last Supper....it's a GIRl next to Jesus"!!! Like it was a PHOTOGRAPH!! I had to burst her baloon when I said it was a DRAWING done 1400 years later, he could have drawn them ALL as women if he wanted to!"
It's odd how seemingly smart people get sucked into that one.
Leonardo sketched that painting prior to painting it and labelled all the figures. The beardless one was labelled as John. He was depicted next to Jesus to portray the moment at the last supper when John was DESCRIBED as sitting next to Jesus.
He was beardless because tradition has John as a young teenager - so he is differentiated from the others in this way.
But none of these DaVinci folks want to let facts get in the way of their conspiracy theory.
Two completely different questions.
Actually, the Paul's writings can be read (I do not say, must be read) with the ressurection taking place out of time, rather like the beginning of John (In the Beginning was the Word,...).
Such was the time and place where Mithra had slain the great bull, and such was the time and place where Zeus killed Uranus, when his mother Rhea had given Uranus a stone in place of young Zeus to eat. Hardly uncommon for religious texts.
Later, the temporal setting for Jesus was established, by Luke at the time of a census, by Matthew in the time of Herod the Great. Mark and John are silent on the matter. If Mark was the first written, and the generally accepted date of 66 to 70 AD is used, the birth of Jesus would be far enough back that adults who could attest to it would be very rare, and adults who could have witnessed the ressurection would also be uncommon.
Sure.
Go get your physics book and open it up.
There, you will see the speed of light in free space.
You'll also see the speed of light in air (slower).
And the speed of light in water (slower).
The speed of light in glass (slower).
The speed of light is different, depending on where you are, and where the light you're seeing is at.
There isn't any "free space" within miles and miles and miles of us.
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