Posted on 02/19/2007 4:35:30 PM PST by Convert
Shocking Media Moment: Bob Woodward Says Democrats Voted for Iraq War Posted by Noel Sheppard on February 18, 2007 - 13:22.
A sickeningly common theme asserted by media members around the country is that Iraq is Bushs war, and that Democrats who voted for the resolution in October 2002 have no responsibility because they were supposedly misled by a president from a different political party.
Well, a fascinating event transpired on Sundays Chris Matthews Show as one high-ranking media member the Washington Posts Bob Woodward fervently refuted this disingenuous media myth. And, maybe more shocking, CBSs Gloria Borger agreed with him.
The panel was discussing the recent nonbinding resolutions voted on in Congress, when Bob Woodward said something that few in the media would dare utter with cameras rolling:
One of the things that we forget as were caught in the heat of the current debate: this is a legal war. The Congress three to one in 2002 said, gave Bush the right to go to war. He decided to do it. So, you know what really amazes me is that Bush, and Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid dont get together and say, Weve got to come up with a bipartisan strategy and consensus on this. Were all in to a certain extent in this war. And we owe it to the troops.
Amazing. Matthews then asked: Do you think the Democrats are willing to be party to this war, or theyre trying to get disengaged from it?
Woodward shockingly responded: They are a party to this war. They voted for it.
Borger then said something maybe equally astounding:
They dont want ownership of this war, Chris. I mean, I think the Democrats are trying to have it both ways. If you definitely cut off funding, then you have ownership of what comes next.
Moments later, the following remarkable discussion ensued:
Woodward: If everyones thinking about politics and not the troops on the ground. Those people are our surrogates, and we owe them everything, and we cant even reach political consensus in this country.
Matthews: But what happens when you have a country that is so divided if you just poll regular people about this war, so much against this war, but yet the commander-in-chief is for the war. How do you reach a consensus between a majority who dont want the war, and a president who wants one? How do you do it?
Woodward: I think that people have to rise above politics and party here. And, think, Ive talked to these people who have come back from Iraq, and in communication with some there, and they wonder: What the hell is going on in America? What? You know, were here, they sent us here. And were talking about cutting off funding.
Extraordinary, Bob. Bravo!
LOL...you are funny.
"How do you reach a consensus between a majority who dont want the war, and a president who wants one?"
The President was elected to make decisions regardless of popularity. The American people can't always have it their way, since they are not privy to all the facts given their sensitivity, nor are they authorities on the Middle East, or war. History shows that the majority is not always right as demonstrated in Nazi Germany, Vietnam, and Mao's China.
You should see me dance.
does the President need authorization to negotiate?
did you happen to catch Kerry on the same stage with "talk to my shoe" Khatami?
Good question...I think I will send that one right off to Chrissy....LOL
I just couldn't believe that question.
Of course he was SO disappointed that he couldn't get Engel to say that it would be better for Iraq and the world if the USA left Iraq right now...
That he just came up with the first inane question that popped in his head...
Later in the same show..he had on Ron Reagan and some others...and metioned that Prs. Bush didn't go to "President" George Washington's gravesite today...that Prs. Bush purposely went to "General" George Washington's grave....ostensibly to "try to compare himself with Gen. George Washington"..
Well...there was a lot of tee-heeing on the set..and oh, why doesn't Pres. Bush give up on the CIC thing...blech
I guess even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then....
I bet Chrissy threw a hissy!
how about the answer?
When polar bears live in Persia!
Ummmm, thinking really hard here. Maybe because his is the CIC. Could that be it?
Poor Chris, he's having a bad week. Tony Snow gets interviewed just like the really important people by Russert, Woodward points out it's not Bush's war, Engel, who hates the war, won't say we should leave immediately. Poor Chrissy.
FYI ~~ the Washington Life 2007 Social Diary
Do a *control F* -- type in any name you're searching (which you can do with ANY document, spreadsheet, website).
Guess whose mugg is there? Melonhead himself
And Bella
And the "this-close-to-power" ~~ Jordans and Cohens
They have a photo directory, with an index of names; so, for example, I chose Andrea Mitchell, and you can see her in many lovely social settings.
I thought this was interesting
Maureen Orth, Tim Russert's wife, Vanity Fair writer, is on the left
The The main photo directory page
This is the Current Events Calendar,
where they'll be schmoozing, dancing, dining, mingling, plotting, shaping the news, making deals .. it truly is Beltway Incest Syndrome, and we, the people, are so trivial.
He better retract his statement quickly before the public finds out that the democrats actually did vote for the war.
If the public ever found this out it could be disastrous, there would be panic in the streets.
ronjie and crissy dancing with cloned polar bears in the Persian Arctic
Just my memory - it was in the news (if I remember well)
does the President need authorization to negotiate?
No, but having ready authorization makes his negotiating position stronger.
ping
It might get Arlen Specter and Lincoln Chaffee upset.
The normally disgusting Matthews doesn't disappoint. He actually alleges that the President WANTS a war. Nobody WANTS a war. We were attacked and this President decided we weren't going to sit around and wait for another 1993/2001 WTC bombing. Liberalism is a mental disease.
Don't forget what I think is one of the more important factors: this vote on a Joint House Resolution was taken roughly one month before a midterm election in which all HORs (Republican led) and a third of the Senators (Democrat led) were up for election/reelection. This was the Democrats one chance to get on record as being strong on national defense.
When they not only didn't regain the House, but they lost the Senate, the cries of quagmire started...before one shot was fired. Everything that these same Democrats said when BJ Bill Clinton wagged the dog during impeachment, was forgotten.
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