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To: Jim Robinson; All
The President is not a legislature or the courts - which is where the 'social issues' are legislated. So the whole threat of Rudy's stated personal views on these issues is WAYYYY overblown.

Rudy knows that trying to impose those views is a recipe for defeat. He is nothing if not a shrewd, dollars and cents kind of guy. A hard-nosed pragmatist, not an ideologue. He will assure the social voters by appointing conservatives in the Judiciary (or he'd be a one-term president), and will veto anything too over the top that Congress passes.

And don't forget the THOUSANDS of "ultra-conservative" Republicans in every state for whom Rudy has personally campaigned since 2001. Doesn't sound like something that a doctrinaire 'committed to social change' liberal would do, does it?

So while he won't be a Reagan or a GWB, his ability - and his desire - to affect these social issues is WAYYYYY overblown.

Where the President has a leading role is in defending this country. And anyone following his career knows that he can and will use the "iron fist" against our enemies. He did it with the criminals in NYC and he'll do it with al Quaeda abroad.

Remember that he personally (and privately, in dead seriousness) asked President Bush to be allowed to "throw the switch" if bin Laden was ever captured, tried and sentenced to death.

See the big picture folks. Hitlary's (or any Dems) Federal Judges are the ones who will try to legislate (imm)morality for decades after her presidency is over!

Rudy will appoint conservatives who won't. Or he'll be a one-termer, and I guarantee you that he is nothing if not a smart cookie. He is not an ideologue but a pragmatist. And pragmatism dictates that he govern as I have laid out above.

Hitlary, OTOH is a doctrinaire Marxist who believes in shoving her policies down your throat at any cost, consequences be damned. She is reckless, power-obsessed, and has a dictator-top-down-what's-good-for-you complex. Its no accident that her Marxist college thesis is still embargoed and the College refuses to release it 37 years later. She learned her craft at the knee of one of the most radical agitator-Marxist college professors whose whole teaching purpose was to instruct his radical students on how to best infiltrate the political system to effect Marxist atheist change.

So when the police come to your door to tell you that you have to send your homeschooler to public school under the law just signed by Hitlary, you won't have me to blame for it - for I will crawl over broken glass and rusty nails to vote against her.

Rudy and Hitlary both may not share all of your 'social views' - though Rudy is a heck of a lot closer to you on them.

But one of them will let sleeping dogs lie, appointing mainstream conservatism which he will be elected to do - while the other, through her administration, allies in Congress, and Judicial appointments - will actively seek to destroy your right to live as you do and to teach your kids what you believe.

And I think you know which one of the two of them I am talking about.

17 posted on 02/18/2007 4:23:00 PM PST by Al Simmons (Thou Shalt Speak No Ill of Another Republican - Ronald Wilson Reagan's 11th Commandment)
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To: Al Simmons

If you don't want Hillary, don't nominate Rudy.


44 posted on 02/18/2007 4:37:57 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Al Simmons

Post #17 well said.


47 posted on 02/18/2007 4:39:15 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Al Simmons

Your comments are what I've not been able to put into words so will save it for the future. I can tell you this, had a terrorists watch been on a democrat's watch, I do not think we'd have bounced back as quickly as we did economically or be fighting terrorists inside our borders as well as outside our borders.

I just cannot stomach McCain and I do not think he is strong enough to lead our country right now.


48 posted on 02/18/2007 4:39:28 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Al Simmons

do folks here realize that if not for Antonin Scalia - Ronald Reagan would have given us 3 pro-Roe SCOTUS appointments.


52 posted on 02/18/2007 4:41:08 PM PST by oceanview
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To: All

"Today starts the time for choosing – for every American manufacturer and laborer. You can either choose to give into China's cheating – or you can choose to join me to enforce fair trade." --Duncan Hunter

Vote in the primaries for a Ronald Reagan Republican.


332 posted on 02/18/2007 6:17:16 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: Al Simmons

Sweetie, you don't seem to realize that we are not having a race between Hillary and Rudy.

We haven't even had the primaries, yet. (banging head against wall)


334 posted on 02/18/2007 6:18:52 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: Al Simmons
Hitlary, OTOH is a doctrinaire Marxist who believes in shoving her policies down your throat at any cost, consequences be damned. She is reckless, power-obsessed, and has a dictator-top-down-what's-good-for-you complex. Its no accident that her Marxist college thesis is still embargoed and the College refuses to release it 37 years later. She learned her craft at the knee of one of the most radical agitator-Marxist college professors whose whole teaching purpose was to instruct his radical students on how to best infiltrate the political system to effect Marxist atheist change

So in your opinion, Rudy will not do these things because he wants to be re-elected but Hillary will be happy being a one-termer?

Rudy is ever bit the authoritarian and statist as Hillary except he would be more effective.

391 posted on 02/18/2007 6:48:55 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Al Simmons
Rudy is a MORON! Have you ever heard him say anything of SUBSTANCE about Constitutionalism or Foreign Policy?

Mayor Linguine D--k knows more about viagra than anything else. Didn't do much for Bob Dole...

Besides, YOU MUST BE AN AMERICAN TO BE PRESIDENT. Rudy is from New York, so he is not an American. ;-)

415 posted on 02/18/2007 7:00:11 PM PST by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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To: Al Simmons

Rudy Giuliani has said that he doesn't believe in private ownership of handguns. If the Democrat Congress passed a bill banning handgun ownership or making it much more difficult, he'd likely sign it. I can't vote for someone like that. If you really want to stop Hillary from being elected, you need to work for a real conservative in the GOP primaries.


599 posted on 02/18/2007 10:09:40 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Al Simmons
The President is not a legislature or the courts - which is where the 'social issues' are legislated. So the whole threat of Rudy's stated personal views on these issues is WAYYYY overblown.

Why not just forget Rudy and elect someone that doesn't require me to hold my nose while I vote?
641 posted on 02/19/2007 5:15:39 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: Al Simmons
So the whole threat of Rudy's stated personal views on these issues is WAYYYY overblown.

How can you say that? Those words came right out of his mouth. How could it be any clearer? His "own stated personal views" are what makes his character, and his "personal views" are why he's going to lose this election, because they are either immoral, unconstitutional, or both!

Rudy will appoint conservatives who won't. Or he'll be a one-termer, and I guarantee you that he is nothing if not a smart cookie.

THIS kind of thinking is why America has had to chose the "lesser of two evils" in the last few elections. When you have to hold something over their head to get them to do the right thing, you need to back up and take another look at that person. IF Rudy was a man of his word, you wouldn't have to say "or he'll be a one-termer." You think that will keep Rudy in check, but it won't. What if it were during a second term for Rudy when the opportunity to appoint a Judge came up, and you didn't have that to hold over his head? He's already proved that he can't be trusted, and this is one of his minor problems.

IF the gun grabbers in Congress decided to ban guns, Rudy would sign it in a minute, because he's a gun grabber himself. Without guns, there is NO way that Americans can defend themselves against our government or against gangs/terrorists, should the need ever arise.

The future for generations to come depends on our making the right decisions now, and that's too important than to gamble on someone doing the right thing!

835 posted on 02/19/2007 12:14:06 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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