Posted on 02/18/2007 7:09:15 AM PST by areafiftyone
Since we can't post from the Enquirer you can read it here Giuliani Favorite Of Local GOP Club
What about Rudy makes you think he's not a globalist? He's got all the characterisitics. Anti 2nd amenedment, pro abortion etc. etc.
I meant polarizing figure. MY MISTAKE.
Besides you never answered my question about what got you foaming at the mouth about the company?
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PhiKapMom, I mean no disrespect to you, but I'm sick of this kind of attitude around here. This isn't a game where we are jealous cuz your guy can beat our guy. We want to take out a "frontrunner" who doesn't represent the majority of our party. We want the "frontrunner" to be someone who doesn't totally split our party apart. Guiliani wouldn't even put the Republican party as his affiliation on his filing form! He might end up running Independent after his supporters in the Republican party have discounted and run down all his conservative competition.
I am with Pukin Dog and his comments BTW. It is hard when you see the anti-Rudy crowd not morphed into that group and some of them have started coming on these threads trashing. I am not going on the Hunter threads so it would be nice to see them not have so much venom on here using Hunter for a shield.
I should have said the ones that love to come on the threads and post against Rudy day after day! I broad brushed and should not have done that!
He said that about the Corvair, didn't he? He gained national attention through that anti-Corvair campaign, didn't he? He seriously damaged General Motors and single-handedly destroyed the compact car industry in this country, didn't he? His whole campaign against Corvair was a dishonest travesty! 'Unacceptable at any cost' was as deceitful about the Corvair as is your paraphrase used against RG.
Thanks. We have to be careful, there are genuine folks here and there are people who want nothing more than conflict.
Btw, I usually pay attention to Pukin' Dog, too.
The Hunter threads are filled with anti-Hunter rants as well. The "anti's" whether Rudy or Hunter seem to travel in a pack. I think they have each other on speed dial. :)
The last time that I checked Free Republic was an opinion site. Everyone is entitled to one, and it doesn't matter if you have been signed up from day one, or just today.
I will keep a low profile, :)and garner information that way.
Turns out a lot of the concerns about Bush came to pass, especially the application of compassionate conservatism to the federal treasury.
Fair enough criticism, and one I agree with. My reference was to the level of, what shall we say..? .."negative personal interaction" that was occurring in those days.
Actually, GWB could be criticized in other areas as well; immigration comes to mind. My point would be that he has been better for the country than Gore would have been, and those were our only choices. Many disagreed in 2000, thinking Pat could win, or a 3rd party could win. I just don't think it was in the cards in 2000.
I will say that I think this time around we may see a real third party appear, although I'm not sure from which side. I also think if there's a third party, there will be a fourth. And if not 2008, then certainly in 2012.
Anyway, thanks for making a reaonable point in a reasonable way.
As do I.
Which is why it is curious that he will not 'link' his spurious claims against Hunter.
I am constantly pointing out the need for all of us to do our own research, and stop jumping on bandwagons just because someone says what we want to hear.
The fact is, the opposition will air Hunter's laundry, should he ever be in a position to WIN. He aint, so why bother? I have no desire to trash the man, only to warn FReepers to not end up looking silly when/if Hunter's past becomes an issues.
I hope that clears it up for ya.
There are liberal Republicans and conservative Republicans, so I hope the CONSERVATIVE Republicans will vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries:
And another thing....
"Giuliani recently told my buddy Sean Hannity that he knows how to pick strict constructionist judges because he was in the meetings at the White House when the president was selecting judges. The fact is that Giuliani had little or no role in the selection of judges. I know this because I was later intimately involved in the process. As both counselor to the president and attorney general, Ed Meese was Ronald Reagan's right-hand man in helping to change the judiciary, as he was in so many policy areas. This would be the same Ed Meese, Reagans closest advisor, who Giuliani or someone on his staff once called a sleaze during the course of another rogue independent counsels investigation. This was Giuliani trying to distance himself from the Reagan administration to appeal to liberal New Yorkers the same Reagan administration he now proudly embraces. It was an act of political cowardice and betrayal for which Giuliani has never apologized.
There are other issues that not only provide voters with the measure of a man, but which are very important to the future of the nation. Some of us believe that man-made global warming is a farce being vigorously promoted by the Left as a major assault on liberty, capitalism and limited government. It is the latest effort to grow the administrative state and regulate vast areas of private life. While campaigning earlier this week in California, the San Francisco Chronicle quotes Giuliani saying:
The overwhelming number of scientists now believe that there is significant human cause. He said the debate on the existence of global warming is "is almost unnecessary...because we should be dealing with pollution anyway.
Others have debunked the idiocy that is the latest United Nations report on this subject. But the point is that Giuliani, like McCain and Arnold Swarzenegger, is prepared to expand government power in ways that few conservatives could justify or endorse.
I also dont think Swarzenegger is anybodys example of a conservative these days. But during this same California trip, Giuliani announced: "I generally agree with Gov. Schwarzenegger. He's a good friend and a progressive leader.'' Swarzenegger is also the most widely irresponsible, big-spending governor in the history of California, and thats saying something. So, which is it? Is Giuliani a limited government Reaganite, or is he a global warming, big-government progressive? His signals and actions are mixed, as theyve been for decades."
excerpt from levin.nationalreview.com
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