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Jonah Goldberg: Inherit the Wind. What if it takes a Democrat? (Maybe a Democrat should win)
National Review ^ | Feb. 16, 2007 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/17/2007 9:22:00 PM PST by FairOpinion

This wisp of a notion is simply this: Maybe a Democrat should win in 2008.

Personally, I don’t believe in this poltergeist, at least not yet. But every now and then, I must confess, I do shiver from its touch.

The idea goes something like this: If you believe that the war on terror is real — really real — then you think it is inevitable that more and bloodier conflicts with radical Islam are on the way, regardless of who is in the White House. If the clash of civilizations is afoot, then the issues separating Democrats and Republicans are as pressing as whether the captain of the Titanic is going to have fish or chicken for dinner. There’s a showdown coming. Period. Full stop. My task isn’t to convince you that this view is correct (though I basically believe it is), but merely that it is honestly and firmly held by many on the right and by a comparative handful on the left.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: conservatives; democrats; electionpresident; elections; goldberg; iraq; jonahgoldberg; wot
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To: Jim Robinson
I'd take Haley or Sessions in a New York minute.

Me too! I note the humor there....lol... NY minute.

141 posted on 02/17/2007 11:55:14 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: onyx

I feel better now....phew!


142 posted on 02/17/2007 11:55:25 PM PST by chasio649
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To: jveritas

Don't underestimate Hillary with all the Clinton ability to raise money. Hillary has the powerful Dem machinery and the MSM working for her.


143 posted on 02/17/2007 11:55:29 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: nopardons

Sorry I have use the wrong terminology. How about "encourage" him to run.


144 posted on 02/17/2007 11:55:58 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: chasio649


Glad to be of service. :0)


145 posted on 02/17/2007 11:56:08 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: nopardons

I think, but I am not sure, it might have been "The Beltway Boys" earlier today.


146 posted on 02/17/2007 11:57:24 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: FairOpinion
Don't underestimate Hillary with all the Clinton ability to raise money. Hillary has the powerful Dem machinery and the MSM working for her.

The same story applies for each democrat presidential candidate since the 1930's. As I said in an earlier post, many analysts are greatly underestimating Hillary Clinton terriblly nasty character and totally uncharismatic personality as the most important factors that will destroy her at an early stage of the campaign.

147 posted on 02/17/2007 11:59:18 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
Fuuuuugggggggggggggedaboudit!

I have repeatedly explained, here, for months now, HOW politics works.

If you imagine that a handful of FREEPERS are able to convince someone to run, who has NO discernible interest in running...you're wrong.

Neither can some FREEPERS overturn the winner of the GOP primaries, if they aren't "happy" with who that is.

Nor can a few hundred ( and I doubt it is even THAT many ) FREEPERS make a bottom tier candidate a front runner and then the winner.

148 posted on 02/18/2007 12:01:07 AM PST by nopardons
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To: FairOpinion

Didn't see the show. *shrugs*


149 posted on 02/18/2007 12:01:59 AM PST by nopardons
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To: jveritas

I hope you are right about Hillary -- but remember how she won the NY Senate seat. That was a long shot by some estimations too.

So far she is running way ahead of everyone.

I can only hope you are right.


150 posted on 02/18/2007 12:02:02 AM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: nopardons

I'm pinching myself. That's the second time this week.


151 posted on 02/18/2007 12:02:09 AM PST by TAdams8591
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To: jveritas

I think it would serve all of us well to not underestimate the enemy (Hillary).... I sure won't wait on the media to "let" her true colors shine through... in my book, it's a given that they will shill and cover for her.


152 posted on 02/18/2007 12:03:14 AM PST by chasio649
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To: TAdams8591
Yes, I know and I haven't been on FR much. LOL

We appear to have found an unusual amount of common ground, of late.

153 posted on 02/18/2007 12:03:33 AM PST by nopardons
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To: onyx
F this whole discussion.../

I'm sticking with Dennis Miller...

"Rudy is the man the men in the caves don't want to be president"

Otherwise we get Hillary and her top adviser Ann Lewis...remember her? I'm sure she terrifies Al Kaida. sarc/
154 posted on 02/18/2007 12:06:05 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: onyx

Thanks! My high regard for the Gentleman from Alabama remains unscathed.


155 posted on 02/18/2007 12:06:40 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: FairOpinion
New York is one of the most liberal states in the Union so it is no a measure what so ever how Hillary will appeal to the rest of country except of course the "very blue" states. Hillary Clinton cannot win any state that Gore or Kerry did not win in 2000 or 2002, and she may lose one or two of the states that Gore and Kerry won.

Howard Dean was the number 1 in the democrats polls until the evening of Iowa caucus where he totally crushed and burned.

156 posted on 02/18/2007 12:06:47 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: FairOpinion

2002=2004.


157 posted on 02/18/2007 12:07:14 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: FairOpinion

"It's always darkest before the dawn", but I can't buy into championing more darkness because it will somehow magically bring on a new dawn.


158 posted on 02/18/2007 12:07:49 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: nopardons
"We have what/who we have and that's that."

Well, then we go with the process of eliminaion.

Giuliani - too liberal, lots of baggage, will drive away the Christian right and gun owners. There goes the south, there goes the presidency.

McCaine - ahem, you've got to be kidding me.

Romney - very doubtful, too many flip flops, unreliable, too much baggage to overcome.

Gingrich - will look at him if he decides to run. Some baggage, but good man.

Duncan - looks ok to me, solid conservative, patriot, some non fatal baggage, not much name recognition.

Tancredo - looks ok to me, solid conservative, solid on national security, don't know of any baggage, unpopular with Bush supporters, little name recognition.

Ron Paul - antiwar libertarian. No thanks.

Brownback - weak.

Huckabee - likable conservative, weak on border security. Wouldn't push the hottest issue besides the war.

159 posted on 02/18/2007 12:08:10 AM PST by Jim Robinson (If the party runs a social liberal for president it's a kick in the teeth to its conservative base.)
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To: chasio649

Agree that we should not underestimate Hillary Clinton or any other democrat candidate. The liberal media can hide that much but eventually things will get out, remember that we have our media as well. The liberal media also hid every democrat candidate true colors in every election but the Republican won 7 of the last 10 presidential elections.


160 posted on 02/18/2007 12:10:08 AM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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