Posted on 02/13/2007 10:08:57 AM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1
Should the American Taxpayer be forced to pay for the college education for every child by as has been proposed by the Democrat party.
In a substantial % of cases, a college education is a waste of good money!!
>>NO! They should be allowed to boot the young adults out on their kiesters if they so please.<<
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Unless you live in a country like North Korea where you cannot do as you please with your own earned resources.
Yes but I see no reason in sending a child to college just so they can party. I think that happens frequently. It nearly did in my case, but at least I got out with a degree that enabled me to get a job and didn't major in art history and graduate with Cs. ha ha
You can't force it, but in my opinion a parent should pay for college.
You CHOSE to have a child and take on the responsibility of preparing that child for adulthood. With the exception of some trades, all good jobs with a decent living require college.
You should set a reasonable grade point average, a food allowance (or meal plan), and maybe they can work in the summer for "fun" spending money. As far as working during the school year, if they are in a challenging program (pre-med, other sciences), they don't have time for a job if they're going to study like they should.
At 48, it's past my time, but I can assure you, as a healthy, red-blooded American male, anything that put more females on campus was something I would have supported wholeheartedly.
Seriously, though, you're not gonna get any of those white chix with that attitude of yours :)
Spot on. Here's my scoreboard on Affirmative action:
White Chicks -- BIG winners
White Dudes -- Moderate losers
Black Chicks -- Moderate winners
Asians -- too busy studying to get the best grades and kick all of our 'merican butts to give a rat's ass about affirmative action
Latinos -- too busy working jobs to care much about affimative action -- or -- born to well-off parents and set with an education and a job in the family business anyway
Black Dudes -- Still Screwed
Not forced, but if my kids want to go I will certainly help them do so, provided they earn it.
At age 45???
That's nuts.
My husband and I are currently planning on sending our kids to college. We are setting aside money for that.
If we were to get divorced at this point in time, what happens to that money. What if I want our kids to still get that money, but my husband wants to spend it on vacations with his new wife.
Divorce just screws up a bunch of things, and it is a legal question.
My older daughter is in college and we pay for all of her living expenses and some of her tuition. The rest of the money is provided from loans and some savings. It is the best we can offer her - but she chose to go to an out of state school. Had she stayed in-state we probably could have paid nearly 100%.
Your niece is demanding a champagne education from a beer budget - let her sue, the courts can't squeeze blood from a turnip. And the fact that she has 5 children total will make it exceptionally hard to get the kind of money the niece wants.
I know; my brother-in-law is a state worker in NJ. Recently the union contracts agreed to cover the medical costs of workers' kids up to age 30.
That said, the question of who pays for a college education, and how much, is often the subject of negotiation in divorce settlements, and the agreement is the subject of a court order, and hence a court can enforce the terms of the agreement, which may include paying for college.
The ability of students whose parents will not pay for college to go to college as an undergraduate may be limited, because even if your parents cut you off, you're still a "dependent student" unless you're a graduate student, married, or have children, or are a veteran or are 25.
The local edubureaucrat at your college can but does not have to take circumstances into account and let you be "independent" if your parents cut you off.
From the Fed guidelines:
I would be considered a dependent student, but I have no contact with my parents. What do I do about reporting their income?
In unusual cases, an aid administrator can determine that a student who doesn't meet the above criteria should nevertheless be treated as an independent student. The financial aid administrator can change your dependency status from dependent to independent based on adequate documentation of any special circumstances you might have. You must provide this documentation. But, the aid administrator won't automatically change your status. That decision is based on the aid administrator's judgment and is finalyou can't appeal that decision to us.
One of my daughters knew a situation where a kid's parents cut him off when they found he was homosexual, and Eastman School of Music agreed to make him independent and gave him a full financial aid package so he could attend.
When I was in college some 40+ years ago, it was easier to become independent
Wrongo.
In the People's Republic of Boulder 15 years ago my neighbor (a journeyman electrician)who had remarried, was ordered to pay for a daughter's college education despite the fact he hadn't seen her in over ten years because of a hostile ex-wife. The daughter took care of the problem (his inability to pony up for full time expenses)by getting knocked up and running off with some guy.
Same thing happened to an old employee out in California.
I paid for 5 years of out-of-state tuition and expenses for my daughter so she could get two degrees necessary for her career and so, suffice to say, I'm not against kicking in all or part of a child's college education. But, I think the father should have some input into the matter and not have it decided by the courts at the instigation of a hostile ex-wife.
>>No kidding, most parents of adult children are close to retirement age and to be slammed with a $100K gouge out of their nest-egg for the benefit of another adult is insane.<<
And what is left out of the equation is what exactly you get for your $100k.
My wife and I set up separate accounts for our kids. While it is still our money, we acknowledge that the money is set aside specifically for use by our kids' education. I guess if we were to get divorced, we would at least know those accounts are hands off.
No! I'll be forced to pay for the education of 'the less fortunate.' 'The less fortunate' are the people who already don't give a crap about their kids.
My only child has a PhD in physics. I'm done.
LOL. That's gonna leave a mark...
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