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1 posted on 02/12/2007 7:39:49 AM PST by presidio9
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I would not say he was a bum. He would have been reelected mayor if he'd been on the ballot.


2 posted on 02/12/2007 7:41:14 AM PST by Brilliant
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Personally I like the guy but that doesn't make him presidential material.


4 posted on 02/12/2007 7:42:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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I was growing disenchanted with Rudy's behavior as Mayor prior to September 11th...but a "bum"?

Nope. Anybody with a brain remembered Dinkins and knew exactly what a "bum" was.


5 posted on 02/12/2007 7:45:03 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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Yep, the thugs, crooks and leeches hated him!


6 posted on 02/12/2007 7:46:00 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: presidio9

Great on Seinfeld; terrible on SNL.


9 posted on 02/12/2007 7:56:00 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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on 9/12 he was a hero

Using the revered term "hero" for a political opportunist like RINO-rudy irks the sh*t out of me.

TRUE heroes are those selfless individuals, like our military personnel, our policemen, and our firefighters, who put their very LIVES on the line on a regular basis so that others may live.

RINO-rudy is nothing more than a career politician that has made a VERY GOOD (better than he deserves) living sucking off the hind teet that is the forced (at the end of a government gun barrel) RAPE (taxation above and beyond what is actually necessary) of citizens hard-earned money.

Using the term "hero" for a northeastern-corridor inner-city liberal RINO like rudy, is almost as bad as rudy's fellow gun-grabbing scumbag, chuckie schumer, saying that he has "served his country" (as an F'ing POLITICIAN?!) for X number of years. He throws that term about as if HE has put HIS life on the line for others, like our brave men and women of the armed forces.

What a SAD joke.

ANYONE who believes EITHER of these liberal butt-buddies is good for AMERICA, is a FOOL.

13 posted on 02/12/2007 8:03:22 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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btt


19 posted on 02/12/2007 8:14:56 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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At least he was actually doing something, making hard decisions about public policy, making enemies, making public statements that were not popular.

Much like Hunter, Romney, Newt, the President, ect.

And UNLIKE any Dem I have seen in my lifetime, who govern solely by GOOD PRESS.
21 posted on 02/12/2007 8:16:56 AM PST by roses of sharon
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No one ever asks if it is ok for this guy to rake in Millions of dollars of the memory of the dead of 9/11. He has milked it for years. Can anyone tell me what he has done from 2002-2007?

Since he left office, Giuliani has leveraged his image as "America's mayor" to his decided financial advantage and in ways that belie his man-of-the-people persona.

He commands $100,000 for a speech, not including expenses, which his star-struck clients are happily willing to pay. In one speech last year at Oklahoma State University, Giuliani requested and received travel on a private Gulfstream jet that cost the school $47,000 to operate. His visit essentially wiped out the student speakers annual fund.

Like other high-priced speakers in the private sector, Giuliani routinely travels in style. Besides the Gulfstream, which is a standard perk on the big-time speakers' circuit, his contract with Oklahoma State called for up to five hotel rooms for his entourage, including his own two-bedroom suite with a preferred balcony view and king-size bed, in the event of an overnight stay. But he did not stay overnight.

The contract also required a sedan and an SUV, restrictions on news coverage and control over whom Giuliani would meet, how he would be photographed and what questions he might be asked.

In another speech, at a charity fundraiser in South Carolina in February 2005, Giuliani also commanded a $100,000 fee, though he donated $20,000 of it to the event. After he was criticized by a local official, he ultimately decided to donate an additional $60,000.

Giuliani reportedly received more than $200,000 for another speech, given to benefit an Australian research hospital in 2003. When it was disclosed two years later that the hospital netted only $15,000, the revelation sparked widespread criticism in Australia. Months later, after the New York Observer picked up the story, Giuliani threw his own fundraiser for the hospital.

 

29 posted on 02/12/2007 8:35:25 AM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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To: presidio9

I don't know about being a bum but the only reason he became mayor was because of Dinkins' high cholesterol.


31 posted on 02/12/2007 8:36:56 AM PST by rabidralph (Hoo-ray, Beer!)
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Furthermore, in some ways this quick look back at Giuliani's past bolsters his over all case to both Republicans and to the country at large which is, in a nutshell: "you don't have to like me or even necessarily agree with me, but I'm a sonofabitch who gets things done.
WHOOP PIE!!
There's been a lot of 'sonofabitch' politicians just in the 20th Century who can claim the same. You'll find them in the dictionary under; Despot, Tyrant, Dictator.

(Mussolini made the trains run on time when no one else could)

33 posted on 02/12/2007 8:38:34 AM PST by Condor51 (Where's Attila The Hun when you need him? [Go sit down Rudy])
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Well, Rudy was a republican and almost no Republican is going to be very popular in NY City. But Rudy was popular at one time, as mentioned he even did Seinfeld. But the change came when he was going to run for Senate against Hillary. The MSM changed from the man who cleaned up NYC to the Nazi image that the far left used to attack him. Its actually similar to the MSM's constant attacks on Bush. Any hint of a scandal and the press attacked, even if it had to make it up.


42 posted on 02/12/2007 8:50:28 AM PST by jbwbubba
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He was a gun-grabbing statist on all three days.


48 posted on 02/12/2007 9:13:24 AM PST by Redcloak ("Shooting makes me feel better!" -Aeryn Sun)
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On 9/10/01 he was a bum, on 9/11 h/e was a man, and on 09/12 he was a hero. Life can change, shift, upend in an instant.

On 9/10, Rudy was a RINO, a label that has been used so often on FR, it has almost lost its meaning. Rudy was truly a Republican in Name Only on 9/10. On 9/11, Rudy was a leader whose party affiliation was at the time entirely irrelevant. And now after, 9/12 Rudy somehow is being taken seriously as a REPUBLICAN candidate for President. Life can change in an instant, but one's politics do not change instantaneously and Rudy is still a RINO, even if RINOs have become so ubiquitous as to become a cliche.

57 posted on 02/12/2007 9:54:38 AM PST by Biblebelter
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Rudy's not a bum, just a Rockefeller Republican scumbag, both as a person and a politician.


61 posted on 02/12/2007 10:24:21 AM PST by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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Any heros on 9/11 are DEAD...

Polititians grabbing photo-ops are not..
Giuliani did his job.. you know.. that he was paid handsomely for..
Being better than Dinkins at it?.. well anybody would have been..

73 posted on 02/12/2007 11:34:26 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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On 9/10 rudy was a great mayor.


76 posted on 02/12/2007 11:53:35 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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