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District pulls video showing same-sex couples from curriculum
Press of Atlantic City ^

Posted on 02/10/2007 10:42:12 AM PST by Sub-Driver

District pulls video showing same-sex couples from curriculum

The Associated Press (Published: February 10, 2007)

EVESHAM, N.J. (AP) - A video showing same-sex parents that was used as part of the third-grade curriculum in this Burlington County town has been pulled after parents protested.

School officials Friday decided to stop using the documentary titled "That's a Family" while a committee decides whether to use the video in future classes, the Courier-Post of Cherry Hill reported for Saturday's newspapers.

The video, produced by a San Francisco-based nonprofit organization called Women's Educational Media, shows children discussing the different types of families they come from including homes led by single parents, adoptive parents and same-sex couples.

The documentary was only shown once at an elementary school before it raised concerns among many parents.

At an emotionally-charged meeting last month that drew more than 200 people, many parents said the film violated their religious beliefs and that the students were too young to see this type of material.

Supporters of the video say it helps children learn tolerance and respect for others.

"It's sad that they're caving in," Lisa Hellerman, a lesbian who has a third-grader in the district, told the newspaper. "All this film did was show what it means to be a family."

(Excerpt) Read more at pressofatlanticcity.com ...


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To: wequalswinner

Sorry about that, I didn't even hit it twice. Whada dork


21 posted on 02/10/2007 12:06:10 PM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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To: AliVeritas; Sub-Driver
It's Elementary:
The documentary for educators that shows how acknowledging gay and lesbian people in schools prevents prejudice and violence (their words)

Here's a very interesting fact about the above video:

A 22-year-old man stands before a classroom of middle schoolers, describing how he came out as a homosexual and going so far as to declare, "there are gay students in this classroom."

The young man is Noé Gutierrez, Jr., and the scene is one from It's Elementary, an award-winning 1996 video (widely aired in 1999) which aims to give "practical lessons on how to talk with kids about gay people."

You won't find that scene in Gutierrez's latest video, however. Although he requested permission to use it, producer/director Debra Chasnoff turned him down. Apparently, she doesn't want school children knowing what's happened since then.

You see, Gutierrez is no longer gay.

The above video is I Do Exist and is the story of 5 ex-gays. Yes, change is possible: People Can Change.
22 posted on 02/10/2007 1:17:47 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Ever heard of Antonio Gramsci?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Gramsci

A recent edition of the Hopewell News, a Virginia newspaper reported, “A Richmond attorney…has advised the Prince George County School Board not to block a proposed Gay-Straight Alliance club from forming at Prince George High School.” “Should the issue be taken to court”, said attorney D. Pat Lacy, Sr. of Richmond, “the school system would lose.” (Gay-Straight Club Active at PGHS, Hopewell News, Oct. 6, 2006)

Common sense, traditional values Americans are outraged that schools are allowing Gay-Straight Alliances (GSA) into schools. They want to know who is behind these clubs and their true motivations.

The plain truth is that both the GSA and Gay, Lesbian, Straight Educators Network (GLSEN), the organization that registers GSAs, are part of a vast, interconnected network of Cultural Marxist front groups known collectively as the New Left. For over forty years, the New Left---a collection of Marxists, Stalinists, Trotskyites, Maoists, and anarchists have been waging a Gramscian style “quiet revolution” for the overthrow of Christianity and America’s Constitution, Rule of Law, sovereignty, and way of life.

While propagandists in the media have deftly kept the attention of most folks riveted on what they’ve been told to believe are the ‘real threats’ to America, such as gas prices, genuine Christianity, and mad cow disease, Marxist-trained psychopoliticians, propagandists, and change agents have descended upon the schools and are subjecting children and older youth to thought control and social re-engineering methodologies.

A position paper unwittingly published by the ACLU of Texas reveals why, “This generation of children will be the next generation of adult citizens who will make decisions on the directions this country will take. They will be molded by whatever education they receive.” (The ACLU vs. America, Alan Sears and Craig Osten, p 71)

Couple that candid admission to the following, by Deanna Duby of the National Educators Association (NEA), a staunch ally of the American Civil Liberties Uni0n (ACLU) and GLSEN, “The fear of the Religious Right is that the schools of today are the governments of tomorrow. And you know what, they’re right.” (ibid, p. 71)

Note: ACLU, NEA, GLSEN, GSA on Communist Party USA website: http://www.cpusa.org/link/group/0/

In the overthrowing of America, Cultural Marxists are utilizing a criminal methodology which originated in the USSR and whose ultimate goal can be characterized by its operative doctrine—nihilism. “Nihilism: originally in Russia, a social doctrine that defied all authority; revolutionism bent on the overthrow of all existing institutions.” (Funk and Wagnall’s Dictionary, 1948)

Two key strategies included within the doctrine of nihilism were added after WWI by two Marxist theoreticians, Antonio Gramsci and Georg Lukacs. These strategies had to do with how to destroy the Christian West, which both men concluded was the obstacle standing in the way of a communist new world order.

Gramsci posited that because Christianity had been dominant in the West for over 1600 years, it was therefore completely fused with Western civilization. The West, advised Gramsci, would have to be dechristianized and simultaneously atheitized by means of a “long march through the culture” so as to slowly infiltrate and then radically transform every cultural institution from the family, to the church, seminaries, schools, universities, judiciary, media, entertainment, politics, and political parties.

Extreme (obscene) sex education was the strategy added by Lukacs. He reasoned that if Christian sexual ethics such as chastity (abstinence), fidelity, and monogamy could be undermined among children, then both the hated traditional family and Christianity would be dealt crippling blows.

Towards this end, Lukacs launched radical sex education programs in the schools. Children, under the control of Bolshevik commissars, were force-fed atheism and instructed in all aspects of promiscuity while simultaneously encouraged to deride and reject their parents, pastors, and Christian moral ethics. All of this was accompanied by a reign of terror perpetrated against parents, priests, and other dissenters. Lukacs’ strategic method would later be brought to American schools by among others, the NEA, ACLU, GLSEN, and GSA.

In the following excerpts from, “Soviet Occupation of Poland, 1939” the application of Marxist criminal methodology can be plainly seen:

“Seeing their incapacity of making headway…to win over the population…Bolsheviks…direct all…efforts towards inculcating their principles in the young. As they have absolute power and no scruples, their methods can easily be imagined. Religion, Polish History and Literature, Latin and Greek were immediately removed from the curriculum (and the) schools submerged in worthless propaganda (which) is intended to destroy their hearer’s faith in everything they had hitherto been taught to love and respect.”

“Atheism is of great importance in the Bolshevik system of education. Even children in…nurseries are subjected to (it). A sort of maniacal stress is laid on the dissolution of morals. Soviet officers (teach about) sexual life in classrooms attended by little girls (and) explain that chastity was a prejudice of decayed bourgeoisie. The helpless indignation of parents forced to put up with…shameless inroads on everything they hold sacred can be imagined. Their helplessness and misery are callously discounted by those in power…every effort is made to undermine all feelings of respect and trust towards their parents.” (http://felsztyn.tripod.com/id15.html)

Nationwide, GLSEN has established GSAs in more than 3,000 Leftist controlled ‘indoctrination camps’ aka public schools. In bastions of Marxist control such as California and Massachusetts, GLSEN is brazenly ‘sensitizing’ youths into trying ‘diverse alternative’ lifestyle choices that decent people everywhere recoil in horror from. Both the infamous sadomasochistic “Fistgate” and “Little Black Book---Queer in the 21st Century” were sponsored in part by GLSEN. (Fistgate Special Report, http://www.massnews.com; The Little Black Book, Http://www.article8.org)

Towards the goal of perverting and subverting children, a California GSA had its middle and high school members march in the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade in June 2003. They mingled freely with nude males, topless females, and sadomasochists. Simulated sex acts were performed along the parade route. At least one sign read, “Sodomize me, it’s legal!” GLSEN used a yellow school bus to ferry youths to the parade. (Selling Homosexuality to America, www.coralridge.org, 2006)

Wherever GLSEN is resisted it fights back, often in partnership with the ACLU. Through threat of lawsuits and other intimidation tactics, the ACLU and GLSEN batter decent Americans into submission. For example, in Boyd County, KY, the ACLU and GLSEN used a court order to force children into attending psychopolitical “tolerance training.” When hundreds of parents tried to “opt out” their children, the ACLU threatened further legal action to force parents to surrender their children to GLSEN commissars.

In a WorldNetDaily article titled, “Gay Groups: We Have Rights to Your Children!” it states, “A collection of ‘gay’ organizations has filed a friend-of-the-court brief in Massachusetts claiming they have every right to teach their doctrine to grade-school students. Parental rights, according to the brief ‘have never meant that a parent can demand prior notice and the right to opt a child out…” The article reveals that the groups involved are major Marxist-progressive ‘gay’ rights proponents: the Human Rights Campaign, the ACLU, Mass. Teachers Assoc., Gay & Lesbian Advocates and Defenders. (WorldNetDaily, Oct. 6, 2006)

In an obvious effort at damaging the parent-child relationship, the ACLU---with help from GLSEN--- published a manual audaciously titled, “Making Schools Safe.” This manual is a “blueprint for using schools to influence children to reject the values and beliefs of parents who oppose homosexuality.” (America vs. ACLU, p. 70)

In material to promote its “Day of Silence, “ a psychopolitical scheme designed to encourage defiance by youth towards parents, teachers, etc., GLSEN told children to “brainstorm” a list of people, “who are likely to stand in your way” or “expressed bias against LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) people.” The list can include teachers, school board members, and relatives. Children were advised that, “People who oppose your issue are…your opponents.” (America vs. the ACLU, p 71)

Marxist-Progressives Who Fund the Subversion and Perversion of America’s Youth

On the bottom of the GSA homepage it states, “GSA is a project of the Tides Center.”

(http://www.gsanetwork.org/)

The Tides Center / Foundation funnels money from wealthy international and national donors --both individuals and foundations / institutes -- to the New Left’s matrix of communist front groups. Essentially, the New Left is the “hired assassins” doing the dirty work for wealthy progressives who want America destroyed and don’t care about the criminal methods employed, but who don’t want to dirty their hands. Among wealthy individuals who donate to Tides is Teresa Heinz Kerry, who has donated more than $4 million. Another donor is multi-millionaire George Soros and his Shadow Party and Open Society Institute.

“The Tides ‘family’ of organizations is a nerve center of radical Shadow Party activity. George Soros has given more than $17 million to the Tides Center since 1999.” (The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party, David Horowitz and Richard Poe, p.126)

Other Marxist-progressive funders include, for example:

Pew Charitable Trusts, Bill Moyers, Ford Foundation, and John D. and Catherine T MacArthur Foundation

The Black Book of Communism recounts in horrific detail the crimes committed against humanity, culture, and civilization by adherents to the communist doctrine. Stephane Courtois, one of the books authors, characterizes communism as a criminal ideology. Former Pres. Reagan, a God-fearing man and one of America’s greatest leaders called the USSR an “empire of evil.”

How ironic that though the West won the Cold War, it is losing the ‘Culture War’ to the Church of Criminal Orthodoxy. While we were not paying attention it stealthily crept into America and began injecting its ‘moral insanity’ producing venom into America’s cultural institutions. Working under cover as multiculturalism, diversity, tolerance, sexual orientation, safe schools/safe sex, reproductive choice, porn as free speech, etc., the evil empire has entrenched itself right here in America.

As it works its destructive black magic upon the America of our Founders, it simultaneously takes control of America’s future---her children. It is subverting and perverting them in much the same way as was done to the children of Christian Russia, Hungary, and Poland.

What Must We Do?

Americans must clear their minds of the psychopolitically-induced mind paste which prevents them from seeing the truth, which is that America was founded by God-fearing patriots who chose Christian principles on which to achieve independence. In the words of John Adams, “The…principles on which the fathers achieved independence were…the general principles of Christianity.” (Works, Vol. x, pp. 45-46, to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813) When Gramsci and Lukacs pointed to Christianity as the obstacle preventing the establishment of a communist new world order, they were confessing to this truth.

If we wish to remain free, we must turn back to and rededicate ourselves to the source of our freedom and personal liberties: God the Creator and the principles of Christianity. Parents must protect their children and keep them out of the grasping hands of the Church of Criminal Orthodoxy. And as a people united by the principles of freedom and personal liberty, we must commit ourselves to the long and arduous fight to recapture every square inch of our culture, laws, and government and cleanse them of the corruptions caused by the Church of Criminal Orthodoxy.

Copyright Linda Kimball 2006
PatriotsandLiberty
http://patriotsandliberty.com/

http://lindakimball.com/

Resources:

The ACLU vs. America, Alan Sears & Craig Osten

The Black Book of Communism, Courtois, Werth, Panne, Paczkowski, Bartosek, Margolin

Radical Road Maps, James H. Hansen


23 posted on 02/10/2007 1:49:33 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Always Right; Faith

You both are correct.
See above post #23.


24 posted on 02/10/2007 1:51:43 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
The West, advised Gramsci, would have to be dechristianized and simultaneously atheitized by means of a “long march through the culture” so as to slowly infiltrate and then radically transform every cultural institution from the family, to the church, seminaries, schools, universities, judiciary, media, entertainment, politics, and political parties.

looks like their job is almost complete

25 posted on 02/10/2007 1:55:10 PM PST by JZoback (Grandma Pelosi will give milk and cookies to Osama and he will be a good boy !!!)
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To: DaveTesla

You didn't even get into the influence of liberal, anti-Christian churches that belong to the NCC and WCC.


26 posted on 02/10/2007 2:29:52 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: DaveTesla

Oops. Maybe you did.


27 posted on 02/10/2007 2:31:00 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Sub-Driver; AFA-Michigan; Agitate; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BabaOreally; Balke; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping

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Click FreeRepublic homosexual agenda keyword search for a list of all related articles.

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28 posted on 02/10/2007 2:31:00 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Sub-Driver
....video showing same-sex parents that was used as part of the third-grade curriculum....

I'm Speechless

29 posted on 02/10/2007 2:34:14 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Sub-Driver

Right in my backyard. Our decision to homeschool is looking better every day....


30 posted on 02/10/2007 2:46:46 PM PST by Antoninus ( Who is Duncan Hunter? Find out....www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sub-Driver
Amen!! But we all realize THIS is exactly why homosexuals want adoption. They feel it gives them leverage in schools, because no one will so no to their children.
31 posted on 02/10/2007 2:47:25 PM PST by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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To: Sub-Driver

The queers are going to have access to kids and nobody is going to stop them. This is part and parcel to the homo agenda; the capturing of kids for future fun and deviance.


32 posted on 02/10/2007 3:17:12 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Future evidence that majority rule is dead when sexual deviants dictate the public school curriculum. The mentally deranged will soon be running the show folks.


33 posted on 02/10/2007 3:19:41 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Faith

"I agree. It is the agenda of the left. The goal is to destroy the traditional family."

History tells us that destruction of the family unit serves to strengthen tyrannical government.


34 posted on 02/10/2007 3:21:32 PM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

"You didn't even get into the influence of liberal, anti-Christian churches that belong to the NCC and WCC."


We owe that one to Hegel.

He had a great influence on Karl Marx.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Wilhelm_Friedrich_Hegel

http://wcc-coe.org/wcc/who/mch-e.html
Member churches...
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Willow Creek Hegelian Dialectic & The New World Order

by Paul Proctor
watchman@usa.com


No sooner do I finish my piece about Willow Creek Association's seduction of 14,000+ churches around the world, including my own, via the Hegelian Dialectic, than Ted Koppel shows us the actual process at work on ABC News Nightline between evangelical leaders and Bill Clinton at the Willow Creek Church in South Barrington, Illinois.

With ministers from around the country attending Willow Creek's Leadership Conference, Bill Hybels, acting as "facilitator", brings everyone into the "Consensus Process" to hear Bill Clinton's confession-less appeal for forgiveness to try and gain the approval and acceptance of the evangelical community just in time for the Democratic Convention.

For the benefit of those who have not yet heard of the Hegelian Dialectic, let me briefly run through it as taught by Authority Research Center president, Dean Gotcher. The Hegelian Dialectic or "Consensus Process" is a 200 year-old, three-step process of "thesis, antithesis and synthesis", developed in the late 1700's by a german named Georg William Friedreich Hegel that results in what we now know as "group-think". It is a system Dean calls "Praxis" that Socialists have used for centuries to seduce, seize and control mass populations without warfare. It is also in full operation here in the United States under such names as: "Outcome Based Education", "Goals 2000", "Sustainable Development", "School To Work", "DARE" and many more. It's all about embracing "tolerance, diversity and unity" for The New World Order. To put it in layman's terms, it's brainwashing.

Here's how it works: A group gathers, and has agreed beforehand that each in attendance will ultimately surrender his or her own personal position on any given issue to the will or "consensus" of the group after *processing to consensus* through dialog. In a Christian setting, the presupposition is that the group's will determines "the will of God". The group's "facilitator", whoever that may be, mediates between sides, be they "good and evil", "for and against", "republican and democrat", "liberal and conservative", etc., whatever the case may be, often instigating heated confrontations between the opposing sides for the purpose of suggesting compromise as the perfect solution to restore and maintain the peace and the relationships of everyone involved. The resulting outcome or *consensus* is then re-introduced if necessary, at the next meeting for more "Praxis", more dialog and more compromise until another "consensus" is reached. Then the "process" repeats all over again...and again...and again until the facilitator's desired outcome is achieved. Over time, the convictions and concerns anyone may have had originally are processed away beyond recognition or relevance leaving one and all to accept the facilitator's pre-determined outcome as the consensus of the group. It's no longer a question of what is right or wrong, good or bad, lawful or unlawful, but rather HOW WE ALL FEEL ABOUT IT...no absolutes, no conscience, no convictions, no laws, no Constitution, no Bible and NO GOD!!!...only consensus....and a contrived consensus at that. Pretty slick huh? That's the Hegelian Dialectic.

That's exactly what "facilitator" Bill Hybels accomplished the other day between church leaders attending the Willow Creek Conference and his friend Bill Clinton on ABC's Nightline. Protesting evangelicals (thesis), demanded socialist Bill Clinton (antitheses), answer for his lies and sexual indiscretions at the meeting. Hybels, as the "facilitator" voices their protests and then injects that Clinton HAD confessed to them by saying he publicly admitted: "I have sinned". Yeah, well...we ALL have sinned Bill. The Bible says it in Romans 3:23. That's not news. That's not a confession either. Nor is a politically expedient appearance in front of a church full of evangelical Christians before the Democratic Convention a demonstration of repentance. The fact is, Clinton has done everything he possibly could to save his political neck leaving a bloody trail of "Arkancides" strung out from Little Rock, to Washington D.C., to Waco, to Ft. Worth, to Ruby Ridge, to Kosovo, to Croatia, to China and beyond. While Hybels brings everyone together under socialism's religious umbrella of "tolerance, diversity and unity", Clinton's REAL crimes continue to be covered up, whitewashed, blackmailed, threatened, bribed and snafued away.

But that's OK. The good reverend just wants us to forgive his pal Clinton so we can all be one big happy family. Thesis + Antitheses = Synthesis...the Hegelian Dialectic. Sounds like the perfect formula for an Apostate Church to me. I wonder if Hybels has sent everyone personal invitations to "The Millennium World Peace Summit of Religious and Spiritual Leaders", meeting at the United Nations later this month as well? I hear they're all getting together to create a great big One World Religion for us here on planet Earth. Won't that be wonderful?...A WORLD CHURCH!

Socializing The Church

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables." (II Timothy 4:3-4)

I took a break from writing for a couple of months to further research the "seeker-sensitive", "church-growth" movement; that tumorous plague that has become to the Christian community what AIDS is to the homosexual community. Those who have been infected always deny it publicly believing in their hearts they are righteous and extraordinary rather than depraved, dying and delusional.

The UN sponsored, government protected disease called political correctness entered the bloodstream of Christendom sometime ago and is quickly becoming the accepted norm in churches across America thanks to organizations like Willow Creek and Saddleback who serve as public bathhouses for the PC infected where it is casually acquired and transmitted through the abominable practice of TDU (tolerance, diversity and unity); a forbidden form of carnal indulgence that liberals teach as "love", but is in fact an abominable lie with hideous consequences. PC ought to stand for poisonous candy; the sugar cube of socialists that was made fashionable in the 60's by flower children who didn't seem to care that it was laced with a virus that attacks and weakens the conscience and severely compromises, if not corrupts altogether the soul of a person who claims to love God.

Today's carriers of this Christian-flavored humanism are currently taking over mainstream denominations by flaunting a fluffy and flowery Disney World doctrine of feelings and emotion while living in utter denial of the ancient wisdom and power found in the Great Physician's own medical manual for mankind.

"Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." (II Timothy 3:5-7)

When first infected, an individual shows little or no visual signs of the disease and goes about daily life as if they were perfectly healthy. However, as time goes by, symptoms begin to surface that drive them to various clinics, conferences and counseling sessions seeking the fashionable remedies, theories, strategies and techniques of social psychologists, marketing specialists and motivational speakers who peddle pantheistic potions and think-positive notions to the "enlightened" for healthy profits and praise.

These hapless victims of a re-invented religion are won through flattery, seduction, covetousness and attrition as their church sanctuaries are slowly converted into temples of doom where the PC gospel is eventually published as holy writ by an unaccountable leadership who privately profits from preaching propaganda. Its carriers do not really believe in the Word of God but rather in the consensus of popular opinion and the sensual gratification of personal experience. Theirs is a selective morality, powered by adrenaline, that never infringes on anyone else's self-esteem or sensitivities yet provides a colorful and charming Christ-like costume suitable for the endtimes masquerade called Apostasy.

"Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord." (Jeremiah 17:5)

Instead of accepting God's way as Holy and the world's way as sinful, they busy themselves endeavoring to make everyone else at church exactly like them through the micromanaging and peer pressure of accountability groups while re-defining for those outside the church what being a Christian really is... A codependent, hypersensitive, emotionally fragile composite of compliance, complexity and contradiction with a fossilized happy face and a tolerance for anything and everything but intolerance.

You'll know that your church is becoming "seeker-sensitive" when the worship service begins to resemble an Amway convention run by pod people in polo shirts whose savior looks more like Bill Clinton with sunglasses and a saxophone than the Son of God hanging from a lonely cross for the sins of the world.

"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." (II Thessalonians 2: 11-12)

Converting Christianity

One of the most damning aspects of Willow Creek and the whole Church Growth Movement is the hypocrisy that makes up its very foundation and operation. Having its members sign covenants, (which is expressly forbidden by Holy Scripture), saying they will not criticize or complain about the church or its leadership is not just socialism ("tyranny with a smile"), but a coup de tat of the church and its Divine mission. Willow Creek was formed, as are its member churches by surveying the lost and unchurched in each of their respective communities to gather a consensus of what those specific people DO NOT LIKE ABOUT CHURCH that one may be built and/or designed to suit them. So, the Children of God are to essentially shut up while the inmates run the asylum for the hierarchy! I think the appropriate word here would be subterfuge.

The Willow Creek Association through its member churches have in effect silenced the Body Of Christ and provided pagans, new-agers, atheists, socialists, communists, Marxists, humanists, homosexuals, feminists and liberals in general thousands of sterilized venues where they can come and present their "felt needs" to those with open arms and open minds.

By creating a politically correct environment for them to work in the UN can now steer Christians and their new church of tolerance, diversity and unity right into global governance. (Just like socialists have already done with the federal government, public education, the media, military, law enforcement and business community.) This is just another of the many shrewd ways the UN is successfully conquering our country through attrition. It's the Gramsci strategy at work.

By meeting the so-called "felt needs" of the godless, THEIR voices are heard, THEIR philosophies are made known, THEIR music is played, THEIR religion is taught, THEIR ideologies are discussed and THEIR agenda is carried out virtually unopposed in the corridors, classrooms and worship centers of every "seeker sensitive" church in America. Bottom line is; the REAL students here are the silent, submissive, ignorant, gullible, compromised and compliant Christians who are held at bay by global socialists surreptitiously destroying our religious heritage through the church growth movement.

But its OK cause we're having a GREAT TIME at a GREAT CHURCH, with GREAT PROGRAMS and GREAT MUSIC, in a GREAT WORSHIP CENTER, with a GREAT PASTOR, that tells GREAT STORIES and GREAT JOKES, to a GREAT CROWD before a GREAT GOD! Consequently, the only sinner in a "seeker-sensitive" church is the party-pooper who disrupts the "unity" of the "unequally yoked" by criticizing the UN's doctrine of "tolerance and diversity".

Here's what the Bible has to say about tolerance:

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." (1st John 2:15)



35 posted on 02/10/2007 5:51:50 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

continued...


FORUM UNITES DIVERSE RELIGIONS

"All pathways to heaven and God are not the same; that's the reality," said David Staal, a spokesman for Willow Creek.

As any bible believing Christian knows, this is the opposite of what Jesus taught. It is more of the Hegelian Dialectic at work made famous by socialists for centuries and the driving force behind the New World Order...The anti-gospel.

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me" (John 14:6)

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)

These two scriptures are the essence of the gospel message and yet many of today's "Christians" continue to follow Willow Creek's blind guides into the global abyss seeking the emotional gratification of group acceptance. It is clear that those who remain loyal to the church-growth movement do so because it is where their friends and family are and they just can't bear to forfeit such valuable relationships for the cause of Christ. It is a travesty that the cross is so readily forsaken for the frivolity of compromised companionship. These poor souls never seem to grasp that in doing this they exchange the "Agape" love of Christ for the "Phileo" love of ecumenism. Tragically, some even convince themselves they can carry out a ministry by playing along in these "Temples of Doom" forgetting the Apostle Paul's warning to not be "unequally yoked together with unbelievers". (II Corinthians 6:14)

The fact is Willow Creek and Saddleback utilize many of Satan's carnal tools to promote the global agenda believing as socialists do, that the end justifies the means. The "church growth movement" is about growing churches and budgets instead of Christians. It is "seeker-sensitive" because it is not God sensitive. It focuses on "felt needs" instead of spiritual needs. So, rather than equipping saints to go out into the world to rescue the lost from a culture of death they employ the culture's own singers, celebrities and salesmen to seduce them into their apostasy by marketing a gospel of gratification. It is the harlotry of hedonism and the very antithesis of all that is holy.

Regardless of what the spokesman said at Willow Creek's religious forum, "...There is none other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)

It is still Jesus Christ plus NOTHING


36 posted on 02/10/2007 5:56:38 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Sub-Driver
Third graders!? I'm at a loss for words...well, words that won't get me banned.

5.56mm

37 posted on 02/10/2007 5:59:22 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The National Council of Churches
is actually a national council of the WCC run by the
Communist U.N.

Satan and his helper Hegel's church.

Rev. 17
And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names, and it had seven heads and ten
horns. The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and jewels and pearls, holding in her
hand a golden cup full of abominations and the impurities of her fornication; and on her forehead was written a
name, a mystery: “Babylon the great, mother of whores and of earth’s abominations.” And I saw that the
woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of the witnesses to Jesus.
38 posted on 02/10/2007 6:27:35 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla; wagglebee; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Sub-Driver
DaveTesla and everyone else reading this thread:

Information Needed:

All, I have read DaveTesla's long post #23. Now I have questions.

Can anyone tell me if the American Library Association has any part in this matter raised in post #23? I know the ALA pushes inappropriate sexual material on children [example: Porn Pushers - The ALA and Looking For Alaska - One Example of How the ALA Pushes Porn On Children], but I do not know why it does so.

Can anyone provide me with specific information of the ALA's involvement in the matters raised in DaveTesla's long post? Can anyone provide me with direct links to this material, or pages from scholarly works? I only like to publish what I can prove. But if I am provided with this information, and it's legitimate, I will publish it on my group's site at SafeLibraries.org.

I can't think of why the ALA would push inappropriate material on children despite community standards, governmental requests, and US Supreme Court decisions. Perhaps the answers I receive in response to my request may help to answer this question; then I can inform the hundreds of thousands who visit my group's web site.

Thank you.

SafeLibraries.org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

SafeLibraries. org - Are Children Safe in Public Libraries?

39 posted on 02/10/2007 7:28:38 PM PST by plan2succeed.org (www.SafeLibraries.org)
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40 posted on 02/10/2007 8:52:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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