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Honest Abe to go on trial - for racism (Community College "education")
Aurora [Colorado] Sentinel ^ | 2/8/07 | Staff

Posted on 02/09/2007 7:22:48 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s

Honest Abe to go on trial - for racism

Daily Sun reports

Thursday, February 08, 2007

AURORA | The Community College of Aurora's professors will stage a mock trail that puts Abraham Lincoln on trial for racism at 2 p.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, at the college's Fine Arts building at 16000 E. CentreTech Parkway.

The trial is free and open to the public. Based on his speeches and written documents, teams for the prosecution and the defense assembled from the Community College of Aurora's criminal justice program and will try Lincoln to determine whether he was a racist and how his beliefs and attitudes influenced the course of the Civil War, Reconstruction and post-war society.

Call 303-739-6600 or visit www.auroralibrary.org.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: academia; culturewars; indoctrination; indoctrinationcamp; publiceducation; publikskoolz
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To: stainlessbanner

This is Lincoln at his finest:

"Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it."


181 posted on 02/12/2007 3:57:37 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Redbob
About time folks talked about the "other" Abe: the one the GOP likes to keep in the closet, the one who never intended for blacks to be other than second-class citizens.

Which Abe is that?


182 posted on 02/12/2007 3:58:27 PM PST by x
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
not my equal in many respects certainly not in color — perhaps not in intellectual and moral endowments; but in the right to eat the bread ....”

Sounds more like a statement from PETA on the rights of Mountain Lions and Wolves. Not on a member of the HUMAN race.

183 posted on 02/12/2007 4:23:58 PM PST by bluecollarman ( There were a pair of brothers in Georgia. The idiot of the two became President.)
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To: KingArthur305
What charges do you have to set forth againt evil Abe?

Wait for the trial.

184 posted on 02/12/2007 4:27:27 PM PST by bluecollarman ( There were a pair of brothers in Georgia. The idiot of the two became President.)
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To: bluecollarman
Whoa Non!... The trial is not about whether any Southerner was racist, only Lincoln. Southern racism is of no import.

Of course it isn't. You might have to admit that when it cam to racial viewpoints your heroes, your idols, men like Jeff Davis and Thomas Jackson and yes, the sainted Bobby Lee were worse than Lincoln. Where would you be if you couldn't get up on your hypocritical high horse and condemn Lincoln for the very sins you give your side a pass on? That's absolutely no fun at all, is it?

185 posted on 02/12/2007 4:27:52 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
It is not possible for you to prove Lincoln was not a racist, there is far too much evidence to the contrary.

By today's standards, yes. But by those same standards Bobby Lee is a vile, despicable racist. So is Thomas Jackson. So is Jeff Davis. So is every Southern leader you care to name. No comment on them? No criticism? No condemnation? Being racist is all right if your a rebel, is that it?

186 posted on 02/12/2007 4:30:43 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: bluecollarman

These no need for a trail southern fool lincoln saved you from your own destruction.


187 posted on 02/12/2007 4:40:42 PM PST by KingArthur305
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To: Non-Sequitur
This ain't about Bobby Lee. It's all about "Abe" .

Sorry Non. If this is really conducted as a trial, Robert E. Lee's position would not be relevant and could not be introduced into evidence. Your point would be moot. No one would care.

Racism is a belief system or doctrine which states that inherent biological differences between human races determine cultural or individual achievement — with a corollary that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

I vote "Guilty As Charged".

188 posted on 02/12/2007 4:41:04 PM PST by bluecollarman ( There were a pair of brothers in Georgia. The idiot of the two became President.)
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To: bluecollarman
This ain't about Bobby Lee. It's all about "Abe" .

And Lord knows we can't make it about Bobby Lee. Heavens, people might look at his positions and decide that Lincoln wasn't so bad by comparison.

Sorry Non. If this is really conducted as a trial, Robert E. Lee's position would not be relevant and could not be introduced into evidence. Your point would be moot. No one would care.

Least of all those who might try and defend the man.

Racism is a belief system or doctrine which states that inherent biological differences between human races determine cultural or individual achievement — with a corollary that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

I vote "Guilty As Charged".

So that's why you're so down on Lincoln. Thanks to him you can't own anyone. What a disappointment. I'm not sure if I should try and comfort you or burst out laughing.

189 posted on 02/12/2007 4:45:43 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: KingArthur305
"These no need for a trail southern fool"

Huh? How am we going to get thar?

190 posted on 02/12/2007 4:48:52 PM PST by bluecollarman ( There were a pair of brothers in Georgia. The idiot of the two became President.)
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To: bluecollarman
OK, let's look at this again.

Abraham Lincoln: "I am not nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races-that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

Bluecollarman: "Racism is a belief system or doctrine which states that inherent biological differences between human races determine cultural or individual achievement — with a corollary that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. I vote "Guilty As Charged".

Ok, so what is your problem with Lincoln again?

191 posted on 02/12/2007 4:49:47 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: bluecollarman

LOL


192 posted on 02/12/2007 4:50:46 PM PST by KingArthur305
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To: Non-Sequitur

You are kidding right?


193 posted on 02/12/2007 5:11:16 PM PST by bluecollarman ( There were a pair of brothers in Georgia. The idiot of the two became President.)
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To: bluecollarman
... and has the right to rule others.

So Abe was advocating ruling another race? Hmmm, NOT. He was advocating FREEING THEM. Try again.

194 posted on 02/12/2007 5:44:29 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Ditto
That's Supremacist, not a racist.

While it might be possible for a racist to not be a supremacist, as in the modern Democratic Party, every supremacist is by definition as racist. Now unless you will quit playing silly word games where words have no real meaning I hope you will just go away. Other wise attempt to prove your unsupportable assertion that Lincoln was not a racist.

195 posted on 02/12/2007 9:54:16 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
every supremacist is by definition as racist.

Do you think Western culture is superior to Islamac culture?

196 posted on 02/13/2007 3:48:49 AM PST by Ditto
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To: popdonnelly

You should read what they did to Christopher Columbus.


197 posted on 02/13/2007 3:50:34 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
"So Abe was advocating ruling another race? Hmmm, NOT. He was advocating FREEING THEM. Try again."

Listen very carefully.... Freedom has nothing to do with racism. I set animals free all of the time.

This is just a simple trial. What is the problem? Why are you so worried about it?

198 posted on 02/13/2007 4:01:08 AM PST by bluecollarman ( There were a pair of brothers in Georgia. The idiot of the two became President.)
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To: bluecollarman
Listen very carefully.... Freedom has nothing to do with racism. I set animals free all of the time.

What does animals have to do with racism and freedom?

199 posted on 02/13/2007 6:17:52 AM PST by KingArthur305
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To: Ditto
Quit playing word games, now you have changed from race to culture, in case you are ignorant they are not the same. By now even you must be aware that you can not prove your assertion as evidenced by your refusal to make any attempt to do so, therefore any further discussion is pointless.
200 posted on 02/13/2007 8:18:10 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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