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Even the Grand Orange Lodge is Supporting Catholics in UK Homosexual Adoption Row
LifeSite ^ | February 2, 2007 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 02/03/2007 6:59:48 AM PST by NYer

They came first for the Communists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

That famous post World War II poem by German pastor Martin Niemoller, is playing out once again today but on a global scale, as the dictatorship of relativism encroaches on traditional morality and by implication traditional religion. 

Those who were once fierce foes within Christianity and even within the realm of traditional religion are beginning to recognize the threat to religious freedom being imposed by the growing intolerance for traditional morality.  Catholics and Protestants, Jews and Muslims are defending one another's freedom of religion against attacks from the religion of anti-morality which is increasingly finding devotees in government.

The trend could not be more clearly illustrated than with the news this week that the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland, traditionally known for its mortal conflict with the Catholic Church, has officially backed Catholic leadership on the question of homosexual adoption. 

The UK government has informed the Catholic Church in the UK that it will not receive an exemption from Sexual Orientation Regulations which would force the Catholic Church to permit homosexual adoption.  Official Catholic teaching states that homosexual adoption does "violence" to children since they would be placed in an environment that is not conducive to their full human development. 

Ian Wilson, the Grand Master of the Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland, announced publicly this week the Lodge's support in the matter for the head of the Catholic Church of England and Wales, Cormac Cardinal Murphy O'Connor.  "There has to be more tolerance of the views of people of faith, and that includes the Cardinal," Wilson told The Scotsman.  "Broadly speaking, the Lodge would take an orthodox, traditional Christian view of this - we see the family as a man and a woman."

The leaders of the Church of England, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams and Archbishop of York John Sentamu, supported the Catholic position in a letter to British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Also this week, Britain's Muslim Council the leading UK body representing Islam, issued a statement saying the group "fully supports the principled stand taken by the leaders of the Catholic and Anglican Churches."

The UK's Chief Rabbi Sir Jonathan Sacks, regarded as Judaism's highest authority in the UK, waded into the fray as well.  Speaking of the new law he spoke of the need for respect for religion.  "Jewish law is unequivocally committed," he said, "to the principle of marriage and the family: the stable association of husband, wife and child. This is at the very core of Jewish spirituality and cannot be compromised."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: adoption; children; gay; homosexual

1 posted on 02/03/2007 6:59:55 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/03/2007 7:00:53 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

The queers will not be denied your children in their quest for sexual preferences. Sad that so many have bought the marketing of the most disgusting deviant behavior on the planet.


3 posted on 02/03/2007 7:07:13 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Huber

Ping


4 posted on 02/03/2007 7:08:04 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Neoliberalnot

***Sad that so many have bought the marketing of the most disgusting deviant behavior on the planet.***

That's correct! We've passed laws that allow our innocents to be handed over to Sodom and Gomorrah.


5 posted on 02/03/2007 7:12:30 AM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: kitkat

Sick, troubling, and true...


6 posted on 02/03/2007 7:14:06 AM PST by CitadelArmyJag ("Tolerance is the virtue of the man with no convictions" G. K. Chesterton)
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To: NYer

The liberals excels at Unintended Consequences. It is very possible that, far from destroying Christianity, their continued assault on it may drive its adherents to unsurpassed levels of unity. It would be the ultimate irony if secular humanism reversed the disintegration Luther started 500 years ago, and gelled an ecumenical Christian army that could finish what the Crusades started.


7 posted on 02/03/2007 7:37:05 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: NYer

Either abort them or let homos adopt them...boy, the left is on a roll! Its all about the chill'un.


8 posted on 02/03/2007 7:49:54 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: NYer
If you or I stood up at Speaker's Corner in Hyde Park and said the same thing, we would be risking arrest and incarceration for engaging in "hate speech".

It is only because these religious leaders are well-known and powerful that it doesn't happen to them.

And the way things are going in England, even such eminent men of faith as these may be soon clapped in irons for voicing their opinions and beliefs.

The British civil service is full to the brim with public-school (i.e. private boarding school) boys that grew up in a milieu of buggery and Bolshevism. Now they are inflicting it on everybody else by force.

Let us hope that our English cousins are still capable of rising up against their overlords, and placing hundreds of heads on pikes on London Bridge.

-ccm

9 posted on 02/03/2007 8:04:07 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: IronJack

There may be something to that. When the gay priders tried to hold an international parade in Jerusalem, Jewish, Christian, and Muslim clergy worked together to stop it.


10 posted on 02/03/2007 8:04:52 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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To: NYer

Blair should be nominated for a Nobel prize for uniting Calvinists and Catholics.


11 posted on 02/03/2007 8:34:18 AM PST by PAR35
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To: NYer
Man, alive!

Isn't every day you hear about the Orange Lodge making common cause with the Catholics!

THAT is a "man bites dog" story.

Maybe this all will backfire on the anti-morality crowd.

12 posted on 02/03/2007 9:01:41 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: kitkat
We've passed laws that allow our innocents to be handed over to Sodom and Gomorrah.

No, It appears that in the UK laws have been passed that force innocents to be handed over to Sodom and Gomorrah.

13 posted on 02/03/2007 9:15:34 AM PST by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: IronJack

Some good lyrics on par with your comment :)

Saxon "Crusader" Lyrics

Crusader 6:33
(Who dares battle the Saracen)

Crusader, crusader, please take me with you
The battle lies far to the east
Crusader, crusader, don't leave me alone
I want to ride out on your quest
I'm waiting, I'm waiting, to stand by your side
To fight with you over the sea
They're calling, they're calling, I have to be there
The holy land has to be free

Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm

We're marching, we're marching, to a land far from home
No one can say who'll return
For Christendom's sake, we'll take our revenge
On the pagans from out of the east
We Christians are coming, with swords held on high
United by faith and the cause
The Saracen heathen will soon taste our steel
Our standards will rise 'cross the land

Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm

To battle, to battle, the Saracen hordes
We follow the warrior king
Onward, ride onward, into the fight
We carry the sign of the cross
Warlords of England, Knights of the Realm
Spilling their blood in the sand
Crusader, crusader, the legend is born
The future will honour your deeds

Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm
Fight the good fight
With all your might
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm

(Come Crusader let battle commence)

Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm

Fight the good fight
Believe what is right
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm
Crusader, the Lord of the Realm


14 posted on 02/03/2007 1:35:38 PM PST by Theoden ("Christianus ille Victor")
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To: Theoden
It's an intriguing possibility. And it may be the only way for Christianity to survive the beheaders. We know by now that this is a win-lose situation: if the moose-slime win, we lose. And the only way for us to win is to force them to lose.

The Crusades were a valiant experiment, largely responsible for the survival of Christianity during the Dark Ages. We could be living in the Age of the Final Crusade, the one that tests whether Western Civilization deserves to endure.

If Christianity succumbs to its own lethargy, indifference, secular notions of "propriety," and collective guilt over its own success, then it isn't worthy to carry on the name.

15 posted on 02/03/2007 3:05:51 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
I couldn't agree more.


16 posted on 02/03/2007 4:28:10 PM PST by Theoden ("Christianus ille Victor")
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17 posted on 02/03/2007 7:01:57 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: NYer

True ecumenism.


18 posted on 02/03/2007 9:16:26 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer

Dogs and cats ... getting along together!


19 posted on 02/05/2007 5:20:18 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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