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Muslim urged to shun 'unholy' vaccines [UK--measles, mumps, rubella]
Times Online ^ | 1-29-07 | Abul Taher

Posted on 01/29/2007 11:02:10 AM PST by SJackson

A MUSLIM doctors’ leader has provoked an outcry by urging British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella because it is “un-Islamic”.

Dr Abdul Majid Katme, head of the Islamic Medical Association, is telling Muslims that almost all vaccines contain products derived from animal and human tissue, which make them “haram”, or unlawful for Muslims to take. Islam permits only the consumption of halal products, where the animal has had its throat cut and bled to death while God’s name is invoked.

Islam also forbids the eating of any pig meat, which Katme says is another reason why vaccines should be avoided, as some contain or have been made using pork-based gelatine.

His warning has been criticised by the Department of Health and the British Medical Association, who said Katme risked increasing infections ranging from flu and measles to polio and diphtheria in Muslim communities.

Katme, a psychiatrist who has worked in the National Health Service for 15 years, wields influence as the head of one of only two national Islamic medical organisations as well as being a member of the Muslim Council of Britain. Moderate Muslims are concerned at the potential impact because other Islamic doctors will have to confirm vaccines are derived from animal and human products.

There is already evidence of lower than average vaccination rates in Muslim areas, reducing the prospect of the “herd immunity” needed to curb infectious diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella. Katme’s appeal reflects a global movement by some hardline Islamic leaders who are telling followers torefuse vaccines from the West.

In Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of India, Muslims have refused to be immunised against polio after being told that the vaccines contain products that the West has deliberately added to make the recipients infertile.

Katme said he was bringing the message to Britain after analysing the products used for the manufacture of the vaccines. He claimed that Muslims must allow their children to develop their own immune system naturally rather than rely on vaccines.

He argued that leading “Islamically healthy lives” would be enough to ward off illnesses and diseases.

“You see, God created us perfect and with a very strong defence system. If you breast-feed your child for two years — as the Koran says — and you eat Koranic food like olives and black seed, and you do ablution each time you pray, then you will have a strong defence system,” he said.

“Many vaccines, especially those given to children, are full of haram substances — human parts, gelatine from pork, alcohol, animal/monkey parts, all coming from the West who do not have knowledge of halal or haram. It is forbidden in Islam to have any of these haram substances in our bodies.”

Katme singled out vaccines such as MMR as ones to avoid, despite doctors saying that they are essential to keep a baby healthy. Others included those for diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis and meningitis.

Dr Shuja Shafi, a spokesman for the health and medical committee of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: “In terms of ingredients in vaccines, there are so many things that are probably haram, but in the absence of an alternative we are allowed to take it for the sake of our health.”


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To: CzarNicky

lol.


21 posted on 01/29/2007 11:14:02 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: razorback-bert

But failed. And their reasoning was not a secret conspiracy to wipe out their denomination.


22 posted on 01/29/2007 11:14:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Froufrou

They don't respect their own lives enough to advance health care. Very primitive.


23 posted on 01/29/2007 11:16:04 AM PST by tioga
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To: SJackson

oh boy, the new version of the suicide bomber.
don't vaccinate the kids, they get sick, and pass it around to others.


24 posted on 01/29/2007 11:16:06 AM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: Froufrou
This is absurd. Not immunizing your kids in the US would mean they wouldn't be allowed in public school.

That is the point; they want their children educated in Muslim madrassa schools.

25 posted on 01/29/2007 11:16:14 AM PST by CedarDave (Hanoi Jane never got over her AIDS (America is Deranged Syndrome))
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To: SJackson
The UK WILL give in. The Caliphate has started in the UK.
26 posted on 01/29/2007 11:17:52 AM PST by hophead ("A questions not really a question, if you know the answer too.")
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To: SJackson
From a pro-life perspective some of these vaccines are problematic because their development and manufacture uses cultures derived from aborted children. From a moral standpoint using these vaccines is much the same as receiving a heart or a liver harvested from a healthy person. Fetal was used in these products largely as a way of legitimizing abortion. Except for Chickenpox, Rubella and Hep A, non-fetal vaccine alternatives are available.

More Info: http://www.rtl.org/html/pdf/Vaccines.pdf
27 posted on 01/29/2007 11:18:06 AM PST by Flying Circus
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To: snarks_when_bored

LOL! He has a way of making profane statements memorable.


28 posted on 01/29/2007 11:18:35 AM PST by JZelle
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To: SJackson

Good. Stupid muslims.


29 posted on 01/29/2007 11:19:36 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Froufrou
Not immunizing your kids in the US would mean they wouldn't be allowed in public school.

Unless you are an illegal alien and the school would much rather have state and/or federal money per warm body.

30 posted on 01/29/2007 11:19:48 AM PST by pikachu (Be alert -- we need more lerts!)
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To: JZelle

Indeed. (I see, though, that I left an 'a' out of the second expletive. D*mn!)


31 posted on 01/29/2007 11:20:39 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: SJackson
Related link:

Muslims Refuse to Wash Hands at UK Hospitals

33 posted on 01/29/2007 11:22:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: tioga; CedarDave; pikachu

If they want disease, fine, but why do they have to spread it here?


34 posted on 01/29/2007 11:23:55 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

I will bet you that when the issue raises its head here that we will find a way to permit their un vaccinated children to snuggle in the classrooms with our children.

Think appeasement, Froufrou. Appeasement, appeasement, appeasement, appeasement, appeasement. Keep saying it over and over until you have no objections to changing our culture to theirs. Then you will find peace.


35 posted on 01/29/2007 11:25:31 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: SJackson

How about allowing Muslims to have an exception to MMR vaccines. Then when the virus strikes, only the Muslims have the pain of dealing with it.


36 posted on 01/29/2007 11:25:56 AM PST by ikka
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To: Froufrou

IF we enforced some reasonable immigration laws we would be safe.


37 posted on 01/29/2007 11:26:29 AM PST by tioga
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To: SJackson

Seems rationale. The four humors can be adjusted with a good bleeding. Of course we'll check the diagnosis with a state of the art MRI before applying the leeches.

A good parable for what we are about to set this irrational bag of anacronisms loose to play with - nuclear weapons. Brilliant!


38 posted on 01/29/2007 11:29:20 AM PST by kinghorse (calls them like I sees them)
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To: B4Ranch; tioga

I already have peace. And I have a piece of my mind I'd like to share with 'the management' about our immigration problems...at least we listen to each other here.


39 posted on 01/29/2007 11:30:09 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: SJackson

Shut up Britain. You are under our command now, all that peace and love and tolerance you have felt so big and gushy about all these years. Now YOU will learn Islamic Law and suffer the 16th diseases that have plagued our countries for years because we are idiots.


40 posted on 01/29/2007 11:33:28 AM PST by Southerngl
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