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Muslim urged to shun 'unholy' vaccines [UK--measles, mumps, rubella]
Times Online ^ | 1-29-07 | Abul Taher

Posted on 01/29/2007 11:02:10 AM PST by SJackson

A MUSLIM doctors’ leader has provoked an outcry by urging British Muslims not to vaccinate their children against diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella because it is “un-Islamic”.

Dr Abdul Majid Katme, head of the Islamic Medical Association, is telling Muslims that almost all vaccines contain products derived from animal and human tissue, which make them “haram”, or unlawful for Muslims to take. Islam permits only the consumption of halal products, where the animal has had its throat cut and bled to death while God’s name is invoked.

Islam also forbids the eating of any pig meat, which Katme says is another reason why vaccines should be avoided, as some contain or have been made using pork-based gelatine.

His warning has been criticised by the Department of Health and the British Medical Association, who said Katme risked increasing infections ranging from flu and measles to polio and diphtheria in Muslim communities.

Katme, a psychiatrist who has worked in the National Health Service for 15 years, wields influence as the head of one of only two national Islamic medical organisations as well as being a member of the Muslim Council of Britain. Moderate Muslims are concerned at the potential impact because other Islamic doctors will have to confirm vaccines are derived from animal and human products.

There is already evidence of lower than average vaccination rates in Muslim areas, reducing the prospect of the “herd immunity” needed to curb infectious diseases such as measles, mumps and rubella. Katme’s appeal reflects a global movement by some hardline Islamic leaders who are telling followers torefuse vaccines from the West.

In Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of India, Muslims have refused to be immunised against polio after being told that the vaccines contain products that the West has deliberately added to make the recipients infertile.

Katme said he was bringing the message to Britain after analysing the products used for the manufacture of the vaccines. He claimed that Muslims must allow their children to develop their own immune system naturally rather than rely on vaccines.

He argued that leading “Islamically healthy lives” would be enough to ward off illnesses and diseases.

“You see, God created us perfect and with a very strong defence system. If you breast-feed your child for two years — as the Koran says — and you eat Koranic food like olives and black seed, and you do ablution each time you pray, then you will have a strong defence system,” he said.

“Many vaccines, especially those given to children, are full of haram substances — human parts, gelatine from pork, alcohol, animal/monkey parts, all coming from the West who do not have knowledge of halal or haram. It is forbidden in Islam to have any of these haram substances in our bodies.”

Katme singled out vaccines such as MMR as ones to avoid, despite doctors saying that they are essential to keep a baby healthy. Others included those for diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis and meningitis.

Dr Shuja Shafi, a spokesman for the health and medical committee of the Muslim Council of Britain, said: “In terms of ingredients in vaccines, there are so many things that are probably haram, but in the absence of an alternative we are allowed to take it for the sake of our health.”


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1 posted on 01/29/2007 11:02:11 AM PST by SJackson
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If these folks aren't willing to live in the 21st Century west, they need to move back to the 5th Century Middle East.


2 posted on 01/29/2007 11:03:55 AM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: SJackson

that's one way to get rid of them.


3 posted on 01/29/2007 11:04:03 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: SJackson

We infidels, however, should vaccinate ourselves against the Islamic virus. Do not take the virus in and do not nourish it. Keep it out of our countries. Don't let it spread.


4 posted on 01/29/2007 11:06:08 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: CzarNicky

Partying like it is 1299.


5 posted on 01/29/2007 11:06:08 AM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President.)
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To: SJackson

" You see, God created us perfect "

This is absurd. Not immunizing your kids in the US would mean they wouldn't be allowed in public school.


6 posted on 01/29/2007 11:06:23 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: My2Cents
move back to the 5th Century Middle East - short move
7 posted on 01/29/2007 11:07:17 AM PST by SF Republican
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8 posted on 01/29/2007 11:07:46 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: CzarNicky
Unfortunately some of these diseases are communicable.... Then again if we infidels have all been vaccinated.....

Honestly hardly a day goes by without some story reaffirming that these animals cannot live in the 21st century. What is to be done........ (strictly rhetorical).

9 posted on 01/29/2007 11:08:14 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: SJackson

I hope they take the good Doctor's advice WORLDWIDE.


10 posted on 01/29/2007 11:08:43 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Froufrou

Don't think it won't happen in the U.S., religious freedom and all.


11 posted on 01/29/2007 11:08:49 AM PST by tioga
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Imagine if a Christian denomination did this.


12 posted on 01/29/2007 11:09:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SJackson

We need to shun them. As long as they are among us, no one is safe.


13 posted on 01/29/2007 11:09:42 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: SJackson
Pigs breathe in the same air that we do, which means that the air itself has come in contact with an unclean animal.

I recommend they stop breathing in this un-islamic air immediately.
14 posted on 01/29/2007 11:09:49 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Every time a jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: SJackson
"I've had it with these muthaf*ckin' snakes on this muthf*ckin' planet!"
"I've had it with these muthaf*ckin' snakes on this muthaf*ckin' snakes!"—Samuel L. Jackson (sort of)

15 posted on 01/29/2007 11:11:15 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: tioga

TB has come back, hepatitis C and maybe a D now, and when I was a baby they were so proud to defeat polio. Muslims are ruination.


16 posted on 01/29/2007 11:12:42 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: AppyPappy
Imagine if a Christian denomination did this.

A few have tried.

17 posted on 01/29/2007 11:13:20 AM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: SJackson

When is the NHS going to step in and require mandatory innoculation? Will their equivalent of child protective services do something? Or do mothers have the good sense to just ignore this nonsense.


18 posted on 01/29/2007 11:13:45 AM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: SJackson
OK, I'll take the controversial position here.
It is your body, it is your business what you let a doctor poke in you.
19 posted on 01/29/2007 11:13:46 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: CzarNicky
I won't say it, but I was thinking it.

What a backwards attitude to have. However, even in our society there are groups that oppose certain types of vaccination saying that vaccines or combinations are harmful or a conspiracy for some reason or another. But to oppose them because it might have been synthesized with some forbidden animal part shows again how out of touch they are with the reality of our world.
20 posted on 01/29/2007 11:13:47 AM PST by CedarDave (Hanoi Jane never got over her AIDS (America is Deranged Syndrome))
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