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Death squad chieftains flee to beat Baghdad surge
The Sunday Times ^ | January 28 2007 | Hala Jaber, Amman and Sarah Baxter

Posted on 01/27/2007 4:08:59 PM PST by jmc1969

DEATH SQUAD leaders have fled Baghdad to evade capture or killing by American and Iraqi forces before the start of the troop “surge” and security crackdown in the capital.

A former senior Iraqi minister said most of the leaders loyal to Moqtada al-Sadr, the radical anti-American cleric, had gone into hiding in Iran.

Among those said to have fled is Abu Deraa, the Shi’ite militia leader whose appetite for sectarian savagery has been compared to that of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of Al-Qaeda in Iraq, who was killed last year.

The former minister, who did not want to be named for security reasons, backed Sunni MPs’ claims that Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi prime minister, had encouraged their flight. He alleged that weapons belonging to Sadr’s Mahdi Army had been hidden inside the Iraqi interior ministry to prevent confiscation.

Maliki said last week: “I know that senior criminals have left Baghdad, others have left the country. This is good — this shows that our message is being taken seriously.”

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To: jmc1969; doug from upland

There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say "cuckoo"

Cuckoo, cuckoo


Regretfully they tell us Cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us Cuckoo, cuckoo
To say goodbye . . .

Cuckoo!

. . . to you


So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night

I hate to go and leave this pretty sight


So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, adieu

Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu


So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen

I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne


So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye

I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!

I'm glad to go, I cannot tell a lie

I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly

The sun has gone to bed and so must I


So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye


41 posted on 01/27/2007 7:38:22 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: TexKat; All
And whatever happened to this fella, Zarqawi's supposed replacement?

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42 posted on 01/27/2007 7:51:13 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: Cindy

THREE interesting things have happened since President Bush announced plans to "surge" U.S. troops in Iraq.

First, al-Qaeda appears to be retreating from Baghdad. A military intelligence officer has confirmed to Richard Miniter, editor of Pajamas Media, a report in the Iraqi newspaper al-Sabah that Abu Ayyub al-Masri, the head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, has ordered a withdrawal to Diyala province, north and east of Baghdad.

Mr. Masri's evacuation order said that remaining in Baghdad is a no-win situation for al-Qaeda because the Fallujah campaign demonstrated the Americans have learned how to prevail in house-to-house fighting, Mr. Miniter said.

(snip)

A strategic withdrawal makes good sense from al-Qaeda's point of view. It's better to live to fight another day. The intelligence officer who was Mr. Miniter's source thinks Mr. Masri is a more formidable opponent than was his predecessor, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who, ironically, met his end after an encounter with an F-16 in Diyala province.

But al-Qaeda's leaving Baghdad will give the Iraqi government and the Americans a chance to assert control in contested neighborhoods, which will make it difficult for al-Qaeda to return.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070127/COLUMNIST14/701270382/-1/NEWS24


43 posted on 01/27/2007 7:55:12 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: TexKat; jmc1969

Abu Deraa is an alSadr minion. But it is AQ chief al-Masri who called for the retreat into Diyala province...

See above.


44 posted on 01/27/2007 8:03:21 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: gotribe

I'm with you!


45 posted on 01/27/2007 8:43:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: TexKat

And I think it would be fair to say the insurgency has been stronger than anybody anticipated.

It's a legitimate, worthy military opponent with guns and bombs, provided in large part by Iran and Syria. Iran arms the Shiite militias, Syria funds the Sunni resistance. I'm always amazed at the Main Stream Media in the US who claim that there are no al Qaeda elements in Iraq. Somebody apparently forgot to tell al Quada who proudly trump their presence there on a daily basis.

All with one goal, make life miserable there so to chickens on the left in America give up and go home. They get satellite TV and see CNN. They know damn well what is going on politically within our country.

46 posted on 01/27/2007 8:45:00 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Thank you La Enchiladita for your link and post.

OPINION: It is always good news when Al Qaeda retreats, is captured, or killed in battle.

Unfortunatley, Al Qaeda is part of the global jihad. The global jihad is a community held together by the internet.


47 posted on 01/27/2007 9:47:20 PM PST by Cindy
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To: La Enchiladita

He's still wanted:

http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/english/index.cfm?page=masri


48 posted on 01/27/2007 9:48:56 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Correct, Cindy. And they have their own television networks, too, even tried to set one up here in the U.S. you may recall.

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2007/01/arabsat_begins_to_broadcast_in.php

"Al-Zawraa hit the airwaves on November 14. According to Middle East-based media monitor Marwan Soliman and military analyst Bill Roggio, it was set up by the Islamic Army of Iraq, an insurgent group comprised of former Baathists who were loyal to Saddam Hussein and now profess their conversion to a bin Laden-like ideology.

"...On Friday 26 January BBC Monitoring observed Al-Zawraa TV, a Sunni satellite channel that targets viewers in Iraq and the Middle East, transmitting on Badr 4, one of the Arabsat satellites, at 26 degrees east.
Al-Zawraa also continues to be carried on the Egyptian-run Nilesat satellite.

Arabsat, based in Saudi Arabia, is an intergovernmental organization established originally by the Arab League. Saudi Arabia is the main stakeholder."


49 posted on 01/27/2007 9:52:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: La Enchiladita
Yep, we'ver been following that on the Threat Matrix for awhile.

ON THE NET...

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com (THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION): "AL-QAEDA'S TV PROPAGANDA" by James A. Phillips and William Schirano (January 22, 2007)

JIHAD WATCH.org (GUARDIAN.co.uk): "JIHADIST TV CHANNEL A HIT IN IRAQ" (January 17, 2007)

CSMONITOR.com: Cairo - "WHY IS EGYPT AIRING INSURGENT TV FROM IRAQ? Al-Zawraa's broadcasting of Sunni attacks on American soldiers highlights sectarian politics." (January 17, 2007)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - weblog: "SUNNI-SHI'ITE WAR IN MICROCOSM" (Note: Includes video.) (Jaunuary 8, 2007)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "WWW.ALZAWRAA.TV: WEBSITE OF IRAQ'S MUJAHEDEEN TV STATION This site is in the USA, unsurprisingly." (Note: See info.) (January 5, 2007)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "EGYPT PLANS TO FIGHT TERRORIST USE OF THE INTERNET But terrorist use of Egyptian satellites is no problem..." (January 5, 2007)

BILL ROGGIO.com - THE FOURTH RAIL - blog: "AL-ZAWRAA RESPONDS TO MUJ TV" (December 25, 2006)

BILL ROGGIO.com - THE FOURTH RAIL - blog: "AL-ZAWRAA: MUJ TV" (December 10, 2006)

50 posted on 01/27/2007 10:01:02 PM PST by Cindy
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To: La Enchiladita

I'll add your link to my list.

THANKS La Enchiladita.


51 posted on 01/27/2007 10:04:02 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Levante

They're all cowards, HERE THAT ISLAMIC TERRORISTS, YOU'RE ALL COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!


52 posted on 01/27/2007 10:05:03 PM PST by pctech
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To: Cindy

You sure have been following the story... I am not surprised!

Yes, that's the network that extended its tentacles into the U.S. I'm going to investigate that link... thanks!!





53 posted on 01/27/2007 10:10:34 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: metmom
The soldiers aren't even there yet and they've gone into hiding? Nice.

Unfortunately for us, there is an old saying.."He who fights then runs away, lives to fight another day." I think that we screwed up (again) by talking for two months about a "troop surge" in Baghdad. If you were a bad guy, would you stick around to get killed?! Hell no! I want us to win, but we are managing this war..like managers. What a cluster.

54 posted on 01/27/2007 10:15:22 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: La Enchiladita

You're very welcome.


55 posted on 01/27/2007 10:17:37 PM PST by Cindy
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To: berdie
There is no doubt that our military is strong and capable. But if they are asked to fight an unconventional war in a conventional manner..can they succeed? Sadly, I am no military strategist and don't know what avenues could be explored.

Right, not only we're fighting an unconventional war, but what's worse is that politicians and media do not want or pretend not to understand this. It's not a conventional "territorial" war where you "clear and hold" and then move, we've done that in first 3 weeks in Iraq - that war has been over for a long time.

Problems are: 1. Definition of "winning" and "losing" (hint: losing starts when we stop supporting Iraq democracy and start leaving... we're winning, but that's not how it's defined now by the Dems/media)

2. Definition of who the enemy is and who we are (or should be) really fighting in Iraq (hint: it's aQI and Iranians, not a "violence" between Sunnis and Shias as defined now by the Dems/media)

3. What to do about centuries-old internecine bloodshed (hint: don't interfere, watch who gets killed, help kill/capture HVTs when possible, don't send more troops unless generals on the ground think it's necessary for specific purposes but not "clear and hold"/"surge" in large civilian centers as it's impossible, a fool's errand)

4. Way forward (hint: political solution here at home lies in properly defining "winning" and "losing" in Iraq and consequences of losing; military solution to Iraq's problems and many other problems in ME after fall of Saddam's regime lie in Iran, not in Iraq - treat the problem/disease, not the symptoms... i.e. Iran may need a large dose of antibiotic for things to calm down in many other places in ME, particularly in Iraq)

56 posted on 01/27/2007 11:00:49 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: jmc1969
Death Squad?

More like Chicken Squad.
57 posted on 01/28/2007 7:14:27 AM PST by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: airborne

Ooops. You were just joking. I'm sorry I didn't get the reference. But judging from other comments, some people actually think this is a sign of cowardice, rather than a rational response to U.S. strategy.


58 posted on 01/28/2007 7:20:21 AM PST by edweena
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To: metmom; RoadGumby
U.S., Iraqi forces kill 250 militants in Najaf
59 posted on 01/28/2007 1:16:19 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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