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Del. Hargrove's great-grandfather owned slave
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | January 23, 2007 | BY OLYMPIA MEOLA AND PAMELA STALLSMITH

Posted on 01/23/2007 5:26:07 AM PST by ItMatters2Me

Del. Frank D. Hargrove Sr., who recently disparaged blacks and Jews with comments about apologizing for slavery, had a great-grandfather who owned a slave.

The Hanover Republican yesterday gained unanimous approval to introduce a resolution in the House commemorating the end of slavery in America. The measure would acknowledge Juneteenth, the nationally recognized commemoration of the end of slavery in the United States.

A search by librarians at The Times-Dispatch and the Library of Virginia shows that Hargrove's great-grandfather owned a slave. An 1850 slave schedule lists Nathan D. Hargrove, a 22-year-old Henrico County resident, as owning a 60-year-old female slave.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bfd; hargrove; slavery; virginia
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To: RetiredArmy
I SHOULD BE CONDEMED FOR IT???

No, but you shall be persecuted for your atrocious spelling! ;^)

101 posted on 01/23/2007 7:17:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (You are not your mind. You are not your emotions. You are not your pain. All you are is love.)
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To: HostileTerritory

Or she was the only one he could afford and he needed her to attend to the house, cooking ad such, while he worked in the fields himself. He could have been a yeoman farmer not necessarily the offspring of a planter. Did he also have a wife? Did he aquire more slaves before emancipation?


102 posted on 01/23/2007 7:19:02 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I come from a long line of lunatics

Whereas, I come from a long line of tunalicks.

103 posted on 01/23/2007 7:19:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (You are not your mind. You are not your emotions. You are not your pain. All you are is love.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Whereas, I come from a long line of tunalicks."

Holy Mackerel!!

104 posted on 01/23/2007 7:26:02 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: ladyjane; edpc

http://www.dinsdoc.com/russell-1.htm


105 posted on 01/23/2007 7:27:05 AM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: ItMatters2Me

I am descended from slave owners on both sides of my family. My father's family had a big plantation in Georgia with over 60 slaves, and my mother's family had a sawmill in Texas with around 40 slaves. It was legal to own slaves at the time. When slavery was abolished there was no effort to recompenese my ancestors for the money they had legally invested.


106 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:56 AM PST by Burkean
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To: RegulatorCountry
My paternal fourth great was a dragoon in the Revolutionary War.

For the British?

107 posted on 01/23/2007 7:57:17 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: Lazamataz

Ha, this reminded me of Maria von Trapp's song in The Sound of Music ... "perhaps I had a wicked childhood, but somewhere in my wicked, miserable past, I must have done ... something ... good ..."


108 posted on 01/23/2007 8:09:14 AM PST by Rte66
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To: kalee
Did he aquire more slaves before emancipation?

NO,according to historical records he didn't. Chances are she helped raise him and he probably loved her like his mother. After his parents past on he probably kept her around to take care of her until she past on herself.

109 posted on 01/23/2007 8:30:28 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: painter

"For the British?"

No, he volunteered to fight Tories, initially serving under his neighbor, Joseph Winston. Patriots had mounted soldiers, too. That's what a dragoon was. He fought in battles against Banastre Tarleton, and at Guilford Courthouse, among other battles he experienced in North and South Carolina.

I assume the question springs from the mistaken notion that all Regulators went on to become loyalist or Tory. Not so. Many of the "Over The Mountain Men" who defeated the British at Kings Mountain were former Regulators.


110 posted on 01/23/2007 8:37:25 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: ladyjane
CORRECT!

ONE of the THREE slave-owners in my home county was a Black man.

free dixie,sw

111 posted on 01/23/2007 8:44:19 AM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: dleecomeback07
SO CALL ME QUEEN DLEECOMEBACK07.

I only hope you are a woman!! ROFLOL :)

112 posted on 01/23/2007 9:00:38 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
It could be one of them married a younger woman. Men can have children at quite an old age.

Different time, no birth control, women often had children in their forties. Are they had them till they physically couldn't. It was common for a couple to have ten or more children.

113 posted on 01/23/2007 9:07:00 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
That's what a dragoon was. He fought in battles against Banastre Tarleton, and at Guilford Courthouse, among other battles he experienced in North and South Carolina.

I just connected dragoon with Tarleton's Green Dragoons. I Thought dragoon was a term the British used for thier calvery units.

114 posted on 01/23/2007 9:08:43 AM PST by painter (We celebrate liberty which comes from God not from government.)
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To: brothers4thID
And wow I should profreed Proofread before posting.. "157 years ago" instead of "257 years ago".

ROF :)

115 posted on 01/23/2007 9:14:12 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: painter

The term is more associated with the British, as far as the Rev. is concerned. But, I do have my 4G's Revolutionary War pension application, and he was referred to as a dragoon. I'd attribute the linguistic peculiarity down to the fact that large swathes of NC were isolated and virtually a frontier, right up to the Civila War, leading to the survival of quite a bit of archaic terminology and language usage. We had a Court Of Oyer And Terminer, an Anglo-French term going straight back to the Middle Ages, and there are still a few elderly people who speak close to Elizabethan English in isolated pockets on the Outer Banks and way back in the hollers of the Blue Ridge ... that sort of thing.


116 posted on 01/23/2007 9:19:22 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zeppelin
Oh I bet his ancestors had slaves
117 posted on 01/23/2007 2:10:39 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: tiger-one

say it aint so!


118 posted on 01/23/2007 2:50:42 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Telling the truth is "piling on" only to those who want to hide it. Jefferson, after 1785, was just a pretender when it came to slavery. His influence after that time was disastrous on our history. The attempt by Washington to mollify the planter aristocracy in Virginia by putting J in the cabinet did not work and allowed a viper into his administration. Much of his time was spent undermining the policies of our first president including hiring professional hatchet men (Callender, Freneau, BF Bache, Beckley) to use character assassination against our greatest Founder (other than Washington), Hamilton, and secretly against the President himself.

Little wonder W came to loathe J and refused to communicate with him in any way after his retirement from office. W did not allow his name to be mentioned in his presence. Of course, the propagandists NEVER allowed those facts to be taught in our schools where we were told of J's sanctimonious statements about slavery were legit.

No one is claiming resolving slavery was easy but there was NO way for a hypocrite to do it or even make things better. After J helped write the NW Ordinance preventing its expansion into the territories he did NOTHING to help it end and came to repudiate his early views and acts DEMANDING expansion be allowed into the new lands of the Louisiana Purchase. Jefferson apologists are becoming fewer and further between thanks to a new objectivity about the man so long exalted unjustly.

Another nail in the coffin of his reputation is "The Long Affair" by Conor Cruise O'Brien. It is devastating and no honest person can read it without his view of Jefferson being affected negatively.

Jefferson was a great rhetoritician and supremely devious politician. As a statesman he was a complete failure and is our most overrated president.

Since J expropriated the labors of others to live a life of luxury I would say HE was far closer to the socialists than I. And his love of the terrorists of the French Revolution shows his far Left view of the world. Just another limosine Liberal.


119 posted on 01/23/2007 2:54:16 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ItMatters2Me
And he was supposed to have influenced this decision one way or the other just how?

He is right. Celebrate the end of the institution.

Give every living freed slave their 40 acres and a mule and call it quits, already.

120 posted on 01/23/2007 3:04:20 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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