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Mayor (Bloomberg): Mystery gas-like smell 'is not dangerous'
Newsday ^ | January 8, 2007 | Lauren Johnston and Amanda Y. Barrett

Posted on 01/08/2007 9:40:02 AM PST by presidio9

Mayor Bloomberg said the city does not know what the puzzling odor wafting over Manhattan and N.J. is, but "it does not appear to be dangerous."'

Hundreds of calls came in about the smell beginning at about 9 a.m. from as far south as Battery Park and east to Union Square and all the way through the West 80s on the Upper West Side. The odor also could be detected in New Jersey.

The smell disrupted some PATH transit service and prompted office buildings to evacuate.

"Our sensors do not show any high concentration of natural gas that would give us cause to be concerned," Bloomberg said at a morning press conference.

"We don't know what it is. It does not appear to be dangerous ... it may just be an unpleasant smell," he said. "The one thing we are very confident of is that it's not dangerous."

Bloomberg said investigators from the Office of Emergency Management, FDNY, NYPD, Coast Guard and other departments are probing the cause of the odor.

The mayor noted that natural gas is odorless and colorless. However, a chemical called mercaptan is added to the substance to make sure it can be detected. He said just a small amount can create an odor.

One small gas leak has been detected at Bleeker Street and Sixth Avenue, Bloomberg said, adding that it is too insignificant to have caused the widespread odor that has put the city on edge.

Consolidated Edison officials said they have more than 60 workers checking for leaks after the company received more than 700 calls about the smell, from as far north as Washington Heights to as far south as Greenwich Village

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To: cva66snipe

Boiler feed lines?

Why not a malfunctioning NatGas odorant plant? Enough mercaptan there to stink up the entire metro area.

Does anyone know if these are underground in NYC?


61 posted on 01/08/2007 10:57:45 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: presidio9

Don't know. Maybe dying sniffers were saying, "Ah...ahhh....ahhhhh!" and observers presumed they were trying to say, "ALMOND!"


62 posted on 01/08/2007 10:59:14 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: DustyMoment; presidio9

Jerry Nadler (fat leftist pig) passed the gas.....

Now we are waiting for it to DISSIPATE......


63 posted on 01/08/2007 10:59:15 AM PST by Enchante (Chamberlain Democrats embraced by terrorists and America-haters worldwide!!)
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To: cva66snipe; presidio9

I would first be looking for pulp paper plants or similar industrials using sulfuric acids within a fifty mile radius. Emissions output combined with stagnant atmospheric conditions, such as would usually result in fog, would put the odor(s) back along the ground.

Exactly what were the atmospheric conditions last night? Low clouds? fog? little to no wind?

Even light rain, at times, causes the paper mill 30 miles to the east of my hometown to make the outside air smell like an open sewer. Sulfur dioxide, I think, is the culprit.


64 posted on 01/08/2007 11:11:29 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Pelosi and company have a 100 hour plan to solve all the worlds problems

After the football game, of course.

65 posted on 01/08/2007 11:13:57 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: DustyMoment

Maybe he has a dry sense of humor.


66 posted on 01/08/2007 11:14:57 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: OldFriend
Told everyone to just wait till the gas passes.

hahahahahahaha!!! reminds me of my 6-yo son who, when smelling something bad, asks, "is someone pass-gassing?"

67 posted on 01/08/2007 11:16:46 AM PST by latina4dubya
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To: Red Badger
"If they don't know what it is, how can they say it's not dangerous?"

Because Bloomberg has ruled out the possibility of second-hand smoke.

68 posted on 01/08/2007 11:17:17 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: ctdonath2

so true..I forgot..by the way, I don't remember pelosi stating WHEN the 100 hours start..kinda like when my girlfriend starts to scratch my back..I tell her she has 3 hours and the clock hasn't started yet...:)


69 posted on 01/08/2007 11:18:22 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: presidio9

How long until this becomes Scrappleface?


70 posted on 01/08/2007 11:28:51 AM PST by UWconservative
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To: ctdonath2

This morning the Senate was discussing urgent business. Senator Salazar of Colorado was introducing legislation to name a Post Office in Vail, CO for Gerald R. Ford.


71 posted on 01/08/2007 11:29:46 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: capt. norm

**Since mercaptan is such an easily traced gas in extremely small amounts, maybe someone was rehearsing just to see how far a lethal gas would go and its likely path.**


My thoughts exactly.

And mercaptan can be used in tiny amounts to make a BIG smell.


72 posted on 01/08/2007 11:42:36 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
what kind of birds are dying??

Pigeons, sparrows and grackles were mentioned during the 1 PM news on KLBJ. The latest count found on the street was 63, but they were still looking on roofs and other raised areas.

73 posted on 01/08/2007 11:50:18 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Boiler feed lines? Why not a malfunctioning NatGas odorant plant? Enough mercaptan there to stink up the entire metro area. Does anyone know if these are underground in NYC?

A bad sequencing control on a boiler. The line itself would be fine and not leaking. But if the control goes bad it could possibly not fire the boiler but allow raw natural gas into the boiler. Boilers use forced draft blowers. If the blower is operating that would take the raw gas on out the boilers exhaust stack usually on the roof. This would likely be a multi story build maybe 5 stories likely much higher. With the area effected it sound like a sizable building.

Natural gas being heavier than air settles to the ground. It would take a building by building search to locate it. A boiler under IIRC 15PSI operation steam pressure doesn't require a boiler operator present which would make immediate detection less likely.

74 posted on 01/08/2007 12:00:21 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: azhenfud

Could be that too.


75 posted on 01/08/2007 12:01:29 PM PST by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Red Badger

i think they'll find that hillary let go of a tremendous fart into a northerly wind


76 posted on 01/08/2007 12:27:19 PM PST by steamroller
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To: cva66snipe

Still doesn't sound like a high enough concentration of mercaptan to me. Mercaptan levels in natgas are extremely small (odor detection levels at the human nose are around 1 ppb). I work in the natgas industry and have experience with mercaptan.

I also know that natural gas is lighter than air at sea level and would not "settle to the ground" (just FYI)


77 posted on 01/08/2007 12:41:34 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Salvation

In Oxnard California today state troopers have closed Highway 1 in both directions due to a "noxious smell in the area"


78 posted on 01/08/2007 12:57:31 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: capt. norm; Candor7; johnny7
"Mercaptan" refers to a class of organic compounds, so it is not just one particular chemical. And, as mentioned, mercaptans are added to natural gas (methane) to give the natural gas - otherwise odorless - a dectable odor.

So it would appear that there could be more than one toxic gas involved here. No one can make any comments about the danger, if any, until the concentrations of each particular gas in air samples are known.

The safest thing to do would be stay as far away as possible until the tests are run.

79 posted on 01/08/2007 1:05:58 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: presidio9

80 posted on 01/08/2007 1:08:53 PM PST by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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