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This is an interesting piece but I see some major flaws in it.
1. The timespan is wrong. It will take at least another three generations for us to collapse. even liberals want to be Americans. They simply redefine it on their terms. This is also true for immigrants. Until this changes or numbers become overwhelming, we will still survive. Hence, I see 2 generations or 50 years as more reasonable.
As I have written in the past, the Goths have crossed the Danube, Hadrianople awaits.

2. The ethnocentric core the US did not reign supreme in 1960. That is the year that they ceded dominance.

1 posted on 01/03/2007 1:15:09 AM PST by rmlew
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To: Paleo Conservative; dennisw; stand watie; ex-snook

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2 posted on 01/03/2007 1:16:58 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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3 posted on 01/03/2007 1:20:13 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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While I'm sure this is a very interesting article, I believe this has all been covered by Zager and Evans.


4 posted on 01/03/2007 1:23:19 AM PST by james500
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To: rmlew

I hope I'm dead.


6 posted on 01/03/2007 1:36:38 AM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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This will be the last year of the US. Then in 2008 Hellary will win POTUS, then it will end, and she will win because it`s now 2007 and Repubs still don`t have a candidate.

"Thank you! It`s been a wonderous 230 years, but I`ve just learned I`ve been fired!"

7 posted on 01/03/2007 1:52:19 AM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: rmlew

Very interesting... but a long read. Well worth the time, though.


8 posted on 01/03/2007 2:24:38 AM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: rmlew

saving


10 posted on 01/03/2007 2:50:09 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: rmlew
even liberals want to be Americans

Funny most of them I talk to these days define themselves as Earth Citizens, not Americans. No, this is not sarcasm...it is true. I can't count the times anymore that I've has one of their ilk tell me they don't consider themselves a US citizen.

The 'redefined' American is a thing of the past. Earth Citizenship is an ideal fast becoming popular.

11 posted on 01/03/2007 2:59:52 AM PST by EBH
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To: rmlew

"even liberals want to be Americans."



But only because the entitlements are good. Wait until Social Security and Medicare must be cut, and they will bail out like rats from a sinking ship.


14 posted on 01/03/2007 3:29:42 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: rmlew

Wow! You are a true "The sky is falling" person. The United States is NOT going to fall. It is sad that you don't trust in God enough to know that we will be alright. There is nothing wrong with America that hasn't been there for years and years. Liberals were here in the 20's and I never read where people thought America was gone. The only time I believe I read where people thought America was gone was during Watergate because it was such an awful time for America. We have not had anything near that since.


16 posted on 01/03/2007 3:34:06 AM PST by napscoordinator
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20 posted on 01/03/2007 4:29:49 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: rmlew

ping


22 posted on 01/03/2007 5:15:05 AM PST by mek1959
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To: rmlew
I was thinking the other day that when I meet my Father and Forefathers in the hereafter, that I will have to explain why and how I let the Country they built, fought and bled for just fade away.

I can't even offer a good explanation to my kids why we're headed in the direction we are. I'm not sure I even recognize this country anymore. One reason - no habla espanol.

28 posted on 01/03/2007 7:25:17 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: rmlew; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; ...

An interesting article. If the USA is going to come apart it's not going to happen with a wimper, but rather with a BANG! CWII Ping.


34 posted on 01/03/2007 9:20:13 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: rmlew

Read the article, all 14 pages, and found it very interesting. He hits on the major fault lines in the US, and recognizes that historically countries with those problems do not remain unified.

We are in much the same position that the later Roman Empire was. In short, we are not longer united culturally.


36 posted on 01/03/2007 11:30:27 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: rmlew
“It is said of all great matters under Heaven: What has been long divided must unite, what has been long united must divide.”

Good article. Rising standards of living tie America together. If the economy seriously jams or sputters or dives, watch out.

Our political system has shown a resiliency that others haven't so tyranny isn't to be expected here if things go wrong. But we could easily break up into competing -- even warring -- factions.

37 posted on 01/03/2007 2:06:11 PM PST by x
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To: rmlew

Interesting piece.

I really don't like the idea of this happening in my lifetime (I'm in my early 30s).

All I know is that the longer we are divided, the closer we get to an event where we won't be able to live side by side in our current form. I hope we can find solutions to our problems; however, how do you reconcile secularism vs having religious values? It's harder and harder all the time considering the extremes that we've gotten to in our public discourse....you can't kinda sorta be for killing babies - either you are or you aren't. (For example)


38 posted on 01/03/2007 6:17:46 PM PST by kcbc2001
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