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Power-Sipping Bulbs Get Backing From Wal-Mart
new york times ^ | 1/2/07 | MICHAEL BARBARO

Posted on 01/02/2007 8:57:15 AM PST by mathprof

As a way to cut energy use, it could not be simpler. Unscrew a light bulb that uses a lot of electricity and replace it with one that uses much less.

While it sounds like a promising idea, it turns out that the long-lasting, swirl-shaped light bulbs known as compact fluorescent lamps are to the nation’s energy problem what vegetables are to its obesity epidemic: a near perfect answer, if only Americans could be persuaded to swallow them.

But now Wal-Mart Stores, the giant discount retailer, is determined to push them into at least 100 million homes. And its ambitions extend even further, spurred by a sweeping commitment from its chief executive, H. Lee Scott Jr., to reduce energy use across the country, a move that could also improve Wal-Mart’s appeal to the more affluent consumers the chain must win over to keep growing in the United States.

“The environment,” Mr. Scott said, “is begging for the Wal-Mart business model.”

It is the environmental movement’s dream: America’s biggest company, legendary for its salesmanship and influence with suppliers, encouraging 200 million shoppers to save energy.

For all its power in retailing, though, Wal-Mart is meeting plenty of resistance — from light-bulb makers, competitors and consumers....

A compact fluorescent has clear advantages over the widely used incandescent light — it uses 75 percent less electricity, lasts 10 times longer, produces 450 pounds fewer greenhouse gases from power plants and saves consumers $30 over the life of each bulb. But it is eight times as expensive as a traditional bulb, gives off a harsher light and has a peculiar appearance.

As a result, the bulbs have languished on store shelves for a quarter century; only 6 percent of households use the bulbs today.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; walmart
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To: cyclotic
They don't last 7 years when you turn them on and off.

I suppose they'll last forever if I don't use them at all!........

41 posted on 01/02/2007 9:09:47 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Publius Valerius

LED light definately is not the same.... blue tinted, not as bright, more diffused... I don't think I'd like them for anything other than accent lighting.


42 posted on 01/02/2007 9:10:01 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: mathprof
gives off a harsher light

Used to be true, but they have some now that are almost indistinguishable from incandescent.

43 posted on 01/02/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Na)
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To: Red Badger
I use these bulbs in Almost all my lights at home. They don't seem to last as long as they claim...........

Especially not in a garage during the winter months.

They work well inside, for the most part.

I have two in particular that basically burn 24x7...one in my basement and one over the stove in my kitchen.

44 posted on 01/02/2007 9:10:27 AM PST by Recovering Hermit (There's another old saying Senator..."Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining.")
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To: HamiltonJay
Doesn't take long to get your $$ back.

Especially if you save the receipt.........

45 posted on 01/02/2007 9:12:12 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: mathprof

I love the energy savings of these bulbs, but I hate the light that they give and the way they look in my light fixtures. We have some in our house, but I limit the locations where we use them.


46 posted on 01/02/2007 9:12:34 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Fairview
I hate the things. It takes several minutes for them to warm up and cast the full power of their creepy glow.

We've a few floods like that, but most are instant-on (and some are faster than the old half-second delays...).

47 posted on 01/02/2007 9:12:41 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Na)
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To: betsyross1776
If they want us to use them lower the price. Price and my wallet matter. Not everybody has 8.00 for a light bulb.

I buy them 6 for $10 and use them in places where its a hassle to change light bulbs, or where they might be used for extended periods of time (outdoor lights, tall ceiling lights, etc). The newer compact flourescent lights have very good color, and come up to power very quickly.

Down here they save power in two ways. One, they use less power when they are on, and two, because of that, they create less heat, which costs money to REMOVE via air conditioning. Less heat load in the house.

48 posted on 01/02/2007 9:12:56 AM PST by Paradox (Let's really defeat Global Warming, build 100 new Nuclear Powerplants! {crickets....})
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To: Gabz; mathprof; Red Badger

The last few 60 watt bulbs I bought didn't last at all. Some were from Walmart and some were from Home Depot. I'm talking just a week or two and poof! they were shot!


49 posted on 01/02/2007 9:13:04 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Poser

It's nice to have choices. What a great country! Let's keep it that way.


50 posted on 01/02/2007 9:13:05 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: mathprof

I love the florescents, because I don't have to change them nearly as often - once a year or less. In contrast, I made the mistake of putting in some halogens because the fixtures were prettier, and those have to be replaced every few months. Unfortunately, the problem bulbs are hard to get to and require a ladder. I'm thinking of replacing the fixtures rather than the lightbulbs, next time.


51 posted on 01/02/2007 9:13:13 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Recovering Hermit

I've discovered thay do not last any longer than regular bulbs in ceiling fans......


52 posted on 01/02/2007 9:13:21 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: mathprof

The crappy light they give I wouldn't use them if they were free and didn't use electricity.


53 posted on 01/02/2007 9:13:45 AM PST by dalereed
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To: TomGuy
Bring their price down you got me on the team. I buy a lot in walmart and sometimes because I need so much I don't have the extra eight bucks. If the price comes down I am with you. I want to save money too !
54 posted on 01/02/2007 9:13:59 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: mathprof
Bulb by bulb, we are replacing every bulb in the house with these new bulbs, ezcept for the few that are on rheostats. And as for consumers spending more for products that last longer, consider the purchase of shoes. When we want cheap, we buy the plastic ones. But when we want better that will last, we buy leather.

John / Billybob
55 posted on 01/02/2007 9:14:18 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Please get involved: www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: mathprof

The warm-up period wouldn't bother me so much if they didn't make an odd buzzing while doing it...drives me up the wall, so I generally walk out of room after turning them on so I don't have to hear it!

Other than that, they seem to work well. I have GE ones, and I wouldn't say they're worse for color than most other indoor lighting.


56 posted on 01/02/2007 9:14:24 AM PST by RosieCotton
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To: Froufrou

Maybe you're only supposed to use them during Daylight Savings Time.........


57 posted on 01/02/2007 9:14:31 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: RayChuang88

Is there any that can go into recessed lightinig throughout the house that doesn't look "alien" our new house has 22 ft. ceilings and I'd love to put a good, energy efficient,long lasting buld in them at any price. also the bedroom lights have domes on them that are transparent, will the bulbs fit in them nicely?


58 posted on 01/02/2007 9:14:54 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Nodding your head while your wife is talking to you?...think of it as the human screensaver.)
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To: mathprof

And yet for some reason, the cheap halogen lamp my wife bought in 1994 is still burning in our den---on it's original bulb.


59 posted on 01/02/2007 9:15:02 AM PST by Wormwood (As moderate as Barry Goldwater)
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To: mathprof

Several weeks ago, Fox&Friends had a demonstration of these kinds of bulbs for comparison.

A single CF bulb, once turned on, used only a slight amount of electricity (based on the rotation of the electric meter), whereas a regular bulb showed significant rotation. The difference was very noticeable.

Multiply that times several-to-many lights being on at the time same, and the total electrical consumption adds up significantly for regular bulbs compared to the CF bulbs.


60 posted on 01/02/2007 9:15:11 AM PST by TomGuy
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