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Revenge of the Small (Smaller Houses Encourages in Pac NW)
Business Week ^ | December 26, 2006 | Karrie Jacobs

Posted on 12/31/2006 3:10:03 PM PST by Lorianne

Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver are creating strategies to encourage the development of modest, more affordable houses ___ In these three Pacific North­west cities, the progressive power of urban planning is taken very seriously, and concepts like livability and sustainability dominate the local civic culture to such an extent that to visit all three in rapid succession, as I did in October, is to drop in on another country. It’s not the United States or Canada, but a more highly evolved combination of the two.

In each city I was impressed by major developments, dramatic projects that promised to refresh the urban landscape in conspicuous ways.

It was in Seattle, however, where I saw the best small house. Dave Sarti, who co-taught a design-build studio at the University of Washington last year, had constructed an 800-square-foot house with a 160-square-foot double-height attached workshop. It’s a sweet fire-engine-red box planted in the backyard of a Central District home. I walked down the grassy driveway past an unremarkable blue traditional home and was surprised to see this Bauhaus cube where another yard might have a swing set.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: govwatch; housing; landuse; propertyrights; realestate; zoning
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To: Lorianne

Town and Country magazine (yep, I read it at the dentist's) has an article about how even the very wealthy are going small, at least in second homes. Although, they don't call them houses, they call them "jewel boxes". :)


21 posted on 12/31/2006 3:24:48 PM PST by Melinda
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To: Publius6961

The cost-per-square-foot of a smaller house is often greater than a large house. But if done right, that extra unit-cost would translate into higher quality.

Personally, I would rather live in a smaller but high quality house than a large, cheaply built 'mansion'.


22 posted on 12/31/2006 3:25:52 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: rpgdfmx
The Atlanta Regional Commission is considering proposals to mandate smaller lots, smaller footprints, and higher density.

That's what happens.

The real problem, of course, is that it reduces the value of the neighborhood over time. Land holds its value; structures depreciate. So a monster mansion on a 1/4 or even 1/5 acre lot has its value mostly in structure, while a modest ranch on 1 1/2 acres has its value mostly in the land. It's a setup for a real crash in 25-30 years when the structures won't be worth much (especially given the shoddy work that passes for upscale construction these days.)

23 posted on 12/31/2006 3:26:42 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Lorianne
...the progressive power of urban planning is taken very seriously, and concepts like livability and sustainability dominate the local civic culture...

Code words for "we got ours, screw any newcomers."

24 posted on 12/31/2006 3:27:26 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: goldstategop

If you have a family, maybe. But for just two retirees, much less is better. That's just space you have to heat, cool, repair and clean. I don't know if you watch HGTV or not, but I'm noticing something of a trend afoot along those lines in the real estate shows. At some point, more isn't better, it's just more (work, money, trouble, hassle).


25 posted on 12/31/2006 3:29:56 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: oldplayer
We didn't build the house we're living in now, and it's too darned big. But the worst thing is all the wasted space -- long halls, dining room isolated from the rest of the house, huge master bath you could play soccer in.

Once you've lived in a nicely designed small home, you just look at your standard "big house" and groan at all the wasted space.

As soon as the kids are all out of the house, it's back to a little house on a big lot -- with a pole barn out back for all the hobby stuff.

26 posted on 12/31/2006 3:30:10 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: rfp1234

The PAC NW is a MAJOR liberal/communist country.
The less homes & highways built the more they show success.


27 posted on 12/31/2006 3:32:20 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: MizSterious
That's just space you have to heat, cool, repair and clean.

LOL. Three or more bathrooms sound good until you realize you're the one scrubbing all those toilets...

28 posted on 12/31/2006 3:32:34 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Lorianne
Total Bulls*hit

I work in surveying in King and Snohomish Counties, WA, so I deal regularly with land use issues and regulations. The prevailing governmental attitude here is "We, the Government, know best." Rather than allow people to fan out normally, they designate Urban Growth Areas (UGAs), where high density is allowed. This allows them to keep large amounts of the counties at low density yet regulate what owners there can develop. (Recall the recent regulation in King County prohibiting development on up to 90% of 10+ acre lots.) In the UGAs, houses can be built with as little as 6 feet between foundations, with eaves being much closer. The first time a house fire spreads to burn a whole neighborhood, these idiots might rethink their paternalistic regulations. Maybe.

29 posted on 12/31/2006 3:32:38 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Lorianne

I know a builder who keeps costs down by only building to a limited number of designs. His designs are practically modular, in that whenever a house has similar features, such as bathrooms, they are built of prefab framing and plumbing, but I suppose that must be nearly industry standard.

High quality and quickly finished, because all of the workers always build the same way, just arranged diferently. He also pays high salaries to keep good people working hard.

Very nice floorplans, double-pane windows and high R factor insulation. He works in W. Oregon and S. Washington.

Come to think of it though, he only builds on owner-prepared sites. The permits, water, sewage and electric must already be in, ready to connect. He does offer consultation services to owners.


30 posted on 12/31/2006 3:33:54 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: GATOR NAVY
Code words for "we got ours, screw any newcomers."

The sad part of this whole discussion is that the new bright-eyed neo-nazis truly believe that they are onto a new excitng concept!

Wrong-o!
I've been hearing and dealing with that sick refrain since homes sold for $15,000 --- in Marin County California --

31 posted on 12/31/2006 3:34:17 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Lorianne
I'm working on the same thing! I believe people will buy smaller well designed and well built homes.

We'll see. I think it'll work.
32 posted on 12/31/2006 3:35:14 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: rfp1234
The PAC NW is MAJOR volcanic hazard / earthquake country.
The less building there of all kinds, the better.

LOL!

33 posted on 12/31/2006 3:37:20 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Lorianne
Image hosted by Photobucket.com my cabin was 400sqft when it was built in 1850 and has since been expaned to a wopping 625sqft... next year i'm gonna put a dormer in so i can have an upstairs.
34 posted on 12/31/2006 3:37:21 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: jimtorr
I can see a subdivision where the largest house is a 3 bedroom, 2 bath house with no more than 1500 sq ft. That's the sort of neighborhood I grew up in.

No, I'm talking about half that size. In an Italian village type setting. I've been working on it for years and I think it'll be a success. This isn't for the average family (much too small) but for those that want a more simple and picturesque house. That's what I'm aiming for.
35 posted on 12/31/2006 3:37:22 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: rpgdfmx

See my reply, # 29. It is mandated to a large extent, at least in the greater Seattle area. Insofar as gov't regulations decrease the supply of available land on which to build, supply and demand take care of the rest. Here, demand is constant or increasing, and prices go through the roof.


36 posted on 12/31/2006 3:38:44 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Jaysun

My kids are grown and out of the house and I'm single. I keep all but one bedroom closed up with the vents closed. The only thing I use is one bedroom, one bathroom, the kitchen and the garage. I don't even use the living or family rooms. I could use a lot smaller house, but I'd still want my big lot and big garage and shop.


37 posted on 12/31/2006 3:39:58 PM PST by umgud (The profound is only so to those that it is.)
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To: Lorianne

Yawn. Let 'em live in a little cracker box and feel all warm/fuzzy/progressive.

I, on the other hand, am an American. My tastes run 'larger'.


38 posted on 12/31/2006 3:40:00 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Publius6961
a tiny house for $180,000 is a non starter.

Not if you live in an area where the average home sells for $500,000+.

39 posted on 12/31/2006 3:40:35 PM PST by speekinout
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To: umgud
My kids are grown and out of the house and I'm single. I keep all but one bedroom closed up with the vents closed. The only thing I use is one bedroom, one bathroom, the kitchen and the garage. I don't even use the living or family rooms. I could use a lot smaller house, but I'd still want my big lot and big garage and shop.

And there are a lot of people just like you, I believe. I have some good designs. And I understand that older people usually like to have gardens and workshops.
40 posted on 12/31/2006 3:43:28 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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