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Squirrels Accurately Predict Bumper Harvests
New Scientist ^ | 12-21-2006 | Roxanne Khamsi

Posted on 12/21/2006 3:49:48 PM PST by blam

Squirrels accurately predict bumper harvests

19:00 21 December 2006
NewScientist.com news service
Roxanne Khamsi

Squirrels can somehow predict which years trees will produce massive amounts of seed, a new study reveals. The animals produce an extra litter of pups months ahead of these unusually large harvests, researchers report.

The scientists analysed 16 years of data on American red squirrel (Tamiasciurus hudsonicus) populations in Yukon, Canada.

As part of the experiment, Andrew McAdam of Michigan State University and his colleagues lured the animals into traps with peanut butter and then tagged them. The team periodically recaptured the squirrels and assessed whether the females were pregnant or not.

They also recorded the amount of cones produced by spruce trees in the area. The edible seed inside these cones is the red squirrels' primary food.

The number of cones produced by the spruce trees in autumn varies widely from year to year. A single spruce tree might produce 10 cones one year, but more than 500 the next. By producing very few cones some years, the trees starve their seed predators, giving themselves an evolutionary advantage.

But McAdams and his teammates noticed a curious trend: While squirrels typically mate in January and give birth to their pups from March, they would also produce a second litter in the spring ahead of a bumper cone harvest.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


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KEYWORDS: evolution; harvests; predict; squirrels; squirrelwar
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

I was cutting down a tree that was blown over in the wind last week, and it ate my chain saw!

I had to get another saw to free it!


41 posted on 12/22/2006 5:54:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: blam
The squirrels didn't forget or lose the nuts, they planted them for future generations of squirrels.

And the little buggers are becoming more self-aware.

I saw them doing a high-five (four?) paw slappin' victory dance on a TV commercial just the other day!

42 posted on 12/22/2006 5:56:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: SmithL

no, but my bumper harvests squirrels...


43 posted on 12/22/2006 5:57:38 AM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: westmichman
You must live where the squirrels are small and un-evolved.

What is the largest squirrel on Earth?

The largest squirrel is the Ratufa (ratufa indica) sometimes known as the Indian giant squirrel, it can grow to three feet in length. This species is found in southeast Asia, and parts of Nepal.

44 posted on 12/22/2006 5:58:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
Eddie the Squirrel - Edson, Alberta
Eddie the Squirrel
Edson, Alberta

45 posted on 12/22/2006 6:01:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

You know, if I were an evo, I wouldn't be showing up on this thread to defend it either.


46 posted on 12/22/2006 6:39:59 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie
The largest squirrel is the Ratufa (ratufa indica) sometimes known as the Indian giant squirrel, it can grow to three feet in length. This species is found in southeast Asia, and parts of Nepal.

Good, glad to know there's an ocean between me and them. A good spot to put on my *don't waste money to visit* list.

47 posted on 12/22/2006 6:41:41 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: blam

I heard that gerbils can determine the sexual orientation of waiters.


48 posted on 12/22/2006 6:45:31 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: blam


49 posted on 12/22/2006 6:49:37 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: ImaGraftedBranch; DaveLoneRanger
This is actually an evolutionary strategy by the trees to thwart the animals that eat its seed.

Wow. Usually, strategy is employed using intelligence and thought, but now even a theory based on randomness and no intelligence design whatsoever is getting into the act.

Impressive.
50 posted on 12/22/2006 6:53:03 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: be4everfree

Hilarious! Thanks for sharing tree strategy!


52 posted on 12/22/2006 8:41:52 AM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: Inwoodian

OUCH!


53 posted on 12/22/2006 9:37:55 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
This is my 7,000 comment, here.

Newbie!

54 posted on 12/22/2006 9:39:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: All
Ladies and gentlemen, it's a sad day when we see people on America's 'premiere conservative forum' insulting science they obviously don't (or can't) understand. Just a little bit of reading from a reliable science text about coevolutionary pressure would render a great deal of understanding to the subject at hand and give the posters more credibility, but this would actually require the discomfort of what trained scientists call 'learning'. It's definitely much easier to launch into backhanded insults against the science research based on a short press release.

It doesn't do conservatives well to be associated with this kind of tripe.

Merry Christmas!

55 posted on 12/22/2006 11:29:33 AM PST by Quark2005 (When the inmates are running the asylum, you can get away with saying anything!)
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To: Bob

More likely there is some weather related event common to both of these examples.


56 posted on 12/22/2006 11:41:29 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Quark2005
It's definitely much easier to launch into backhanded insults...

I guess so, especially concluding that people are ignorant of science because they either disagree with the conclusions of the interpretation of the fossil record or laugh themselves silly over the stupid statements made by the *scientists* in this article. This article is a joke and should be an embarrassment to scientists everywhere.

It's one thing to observe that squirrels have an extra litter when there's a bumper crop of cones but statements like:"By producing very few cones some years, the trees starve their seed predators, giving themselves an evolutionary advantage.Oh they do? They have this figured out?

and "...such as these squirrels as going along with the trees’ game,”..." Game? Is he serious?

It remains unclear exactly how squirrels can predict ... The animals might also notice more of these cone buds in the spring ahead of the harvest and have an extra litter based on this visual cue.

McAdam says he would not trust his stock portfolio to the squirrels, but adds that the animals “sure do better than most investors” in predicting boom and bust years.

If this is considered serious science; science is seriously in trouble.

57 posted on 12/22/2006 3:46:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
"By producing very few cones some years, the trees starve their seed predators, giving themselves an evolutionary advantage.Oh they do? They have this figured out?

Are you aware of what research warrants this conclusion? Don't you think it's worth researching that before discounting this as a scientific conclusion?

Are you aware of what research exists on the subject of coevolution between predator-prey systems? Have you checked out the paper in New Scientist, or are you just skimming a press report?

58 posted on 12/22/2006 5:52:44 PM PST by Quark2005 (When the inmates are running the asylum, you can get away with saying anything!)
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To: Quark2005
"Ladies and gentlemen, it's a sad day when we see people on America's 'premiere conservative forum' insulting science they obviously don't (or can't) understand."

It is indeed a sad day when people pretend that science can answer every question from a naturalistic perspective without reminding everyone that a naturalistic answer is a requirement of science.

'Coevolutionary pressure' is simply "Post hoc ergo propter hoc" and anyone who really understands science knows this.

Therefore, to fail to inform the audience of that circular thought pattern is either a lack of critical thinking ability or...

59 posted on 12/22/2006 7:20:39 PM PST by GourmetDan
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To: GourmetDan
Nature winning the battle over design.

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60 posted on 12/22/2006 8:11:10 PM PST by be4everfree (Liberals are "Thick as a Brick" ......JT)
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