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Posted on 12/19/2006 3:59:27 PM PST by Paul8148

Because the GOP, and America, need Rudy now.

More than ever.

by DaveG @ 5:40 pm. Filed

(Excerpt) Read more at race42008.com ...


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To: streetpreacher; Liz


I saw long ago that she was the best at showing us who Rudy is.
:)


21 posted on 12/19/2006 4:14:06 PM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: Paul8148

Thanks for the alert. Though they hate to admit it, Rudy has more support than any other single candidate on this forum.


22 posted on 12/19/2006 4:16:09 PM PST by Torie
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To: aft_lizard

I will take him over any of the democrats too but we need to regain control in the house and senate too.


23 posted on 12/19/2006 4:17:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: ExpatGator

Why don't we try to change his mind on the 2A? There are a lot of things I like about him, but like you, he will never get my vote or support unless he does a one-eighty on the 2A.


24 posted on 12/19/2006 4:18:18 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: Torie

Is there an FR poll that reflects that?


25 posted on 12/19/2006 4:23:41 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Paul8148

If I want to hear B.S, I'll go shop for a used car!


26 posted on 12/19/2006 4:24:42 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: basil

It's not just that issue, but a slew of others. It reaches the point where the candidate themself is simply too far afield from the base on their core beliefs. Another issue that needs to be raised on him is personal judgment, he almost caused a national scandal with his choice for Homeland Security Secretary, Bernard Kerik.


27 posted on 12/19/2006 4:25:21 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Torie

Ummm...

You must have missed the Free Republic poll.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=166;results=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=154;results=2

He doesn't even get a majority when it's only the moderate candidates being polled at Free Republic, just a plurality against a relative unknown.

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=158;results=1


28 posted on 12/19/2006 4:27:27 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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Sorry, Rudy, but I like my guns ... I hate abortion ... I think marriage should stay between one man and one woman ...

You will not be President with any help from me.

29 posted on 12/19/2006 4:28:33 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: streetpreacher

Ya, there was. I wrote it, and Jim put it up. There needs to be a new one with Duncan Hunter on, but I still think Rudy will pull a third of the FR vote. Last time he got close to 40%, with Romney, McCain and sit it out the alternatives. I asked Jim yesterday to put up another, but no dice.


30 posted on 12/19/2006 4:28:47 PM PST by Torie
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To: basil
Why don't we try to change his mind on the 2A? There are a lot of things I like about him, but like you, he will never get my vote or support unless he does a one-eighty on the 2A.

He is a politician.

IF you can swing him from con to pro 2nd Amendment, what stops him from swinging back to his default position once he has sewn up your vote? The Second Amendment is one of my three absolutes, but just one.

Doing the left/right/left dance is something most politicians can do in their sleep.

Rudy can't dance nearly fast enough to convince me he isn't exactly what his record shows him to be.

So again, sorry NO.
31 posted on 12/19/2006 4:29:02 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: streetpreacher; Torie

These were the 2 polls regarding Rudy:

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=166;results=1

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=158;results=1

Giuliani is opposed by the majority of FReepers as a stand-alone, but favored by a plurality against McCain and Romney (I voted "sit it out" with those choices). Think of him as the "best of the worst", but no ringing endorsement by any stretch.


32 posted on 12/19/2006 4:29:33 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Paul8148

Sorry, another conservative voter here.

For a conservative Catholic such as myself, voting for a pro-abortion such as Rudy is a sin. No getting around that.

I will vote third party or stay home before I vote for Guiliani in 2008.


33 posted on 12/19/2006 4:29:41 PM PST by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: TitansAFC

Ya, Rudy gets close to 45% in the for and against poll. No other one candidate would get near that much.


34 posted on 12/19/2006 4:31:02 PM PST by Torie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

"It's not just that issue, but a slew of others. It reaches the point where the candidate themself is simply too far afield from the base on their core beliefs. Another issue that needs to be raised on him is personal judgment, he almost caused a national scandal with his choice for Homeland Security Secretary, Bernard Kerik."

Beyond his liberal beliefs, Giuliani also has poor personal morals. Cheated on two wives, etc. Associates with cronies such as Kerik.

I suspect that there are many conservative-leaning Americans that will vote for a liberal family man (Obama) before they vote for a liberal adulterer (Giuliani.) Just a thought.


35 posted on 12/19/2006 4:32:11 PM PST by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: Paul8148
You have a typo. It should read:

JoinGunGrabberRudy.com

36 posted on 12/19/2006 4:33:49 PM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Paul8148

Thansk for the link. I just signed up as a volunteer!


37 posted on 12/19/2006 4:34:03 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Torie

You are simply incorrect.

Even against Romney and Mccain, Rudy can't break 45% with the GOP base.

Any actual Conservative would beat that number here.


38 posted on 12/19/2006 4:35:09 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: BunnySlippers
RE: tagline... to NOT vote for Rudy is to "forget 9/11". I guess pretty soon we will see Rudy Bots as he too takes on godlike status with his worshipers.
39 posted on 12/19/2006 4:36:23 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: nj26
"Beyond his liberal beliefs, Giuliani also has poor personal morals. Cheated on two wives, etc. Associates with cronies such as Kerik. I suspect that there are many conservative-leaning Americans that will vote for a liberal family man (Obama) before they vote for a liberal adulterer (Giuliani.) Just a thought."

The three marriages thing definitely will be a serious liability. Remember how Dole got hammered for being divorced by Clinton !

40 posted on 12/19/2006 4:37:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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