Posted on 12/15/2006 9:13:14 PM PST by Flavius
Washington -- The United States has no intention of sending military forces to Somalia to remove al-Qaida-backed militants from power, a senior U.S. diplomat told reporters December 14.
Jendayi Frazer, assistant secretary of state for African affairs, called on Somalias competing factions to open talks aimed at achieving a stable government. She also urged international follow-through on a December 6 U.N. Security Council resolution that authorizes an African peacekeeping force to protect Somalia's Transitional Federal Government. (See related article.)
Thats not a plan that we have on the table, for the U.S. government and our U.S. military to deploy to Mogadishu [Somalia], Frazer told reporters at the State Department. Thats not really something that were saying to our Congress and our public that we want as part of our strategy.
Somalia has lacked an effective national government since early 1991. The Transitional Federal Government was formed with international cooperation in 2004 and currently is based in Baidoa, Somalia. The main city of Mogadishu and the majority of other population centers are controlled by the Union of Islamic Courts, also known as the Council of Islamic Courts (CIC), which is a group of regional courts that emerged after the chaos of the 1990s to restore local order by administering Islamic law, or Shariah. However, in recent months, the courts increasingly have been led by East African al-Qaida militants, including terrorists responsible for the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
Frazer said the United States does not seek the overthrow of the Islamic Courts. However, the United States does want to foster moderate leadership within them. The United States also wants the court group to stop its military expansion and to open talks with the transitional government, which has a five-year international mandate to develop a stable, permanent government for all of Somalia, she said.
The problem is that the CIC is led by extreme radicals right now, not the moderates that we all hoped would emerge, Frazer said. One leading group within the courts, the al-Shaaba, are radical youth killers, Frazer said. Thats what they are. Theyre killing nuns, theyve killed children and theyre calling for jihad.
Radicals within the courts have introduced extreme versions of Islamic law that are at odds with Somalias history and traditions, Frazer said. Frankly, public executions, killing people for watching soccer matches, is not consistent with the Somali culture and traditions, she said.
U.S. GOALS
The first U.S. goal for Somalia is to work within the Transitional Federal Charter, which is recognized by the United Nations as the framework for restoring governance to Somalia, Frazer said. The United States wants civil-society groups to join with clans and sub-clans to establish a nationwide system of government for the first time in more than 15 years. Thats our ultimate aim, Frazer said.
The Transitional Federal Government, she stressed is transitional. Thats the key point. At the end of five years, the Somali people will have to decide how to govern themselves. So the goal of the transitional government is not in fact to get rid of the CIC.
The second U.S. goal for Somalia is to have these terrorists turned over, particularly the ones who attacked our embassies, Frazer said. Terrorists associated with the 1998 bombings either are part of Islamic courts groups or have been sheltered and assisted by them, she said.
The analysis is that there are many more in the courts that are moderate and are just going along, Frazer said, and we would hope that, eventually, the conditions will be such that they can break off and join with governing Somalia in the traditions of Somalia.
U.S. ambassadors are in talks throughout Africa seeking countries willing to be part of the regional peacekeeping force that would assist the Transitional Federal Government in asserting control and entering into constructive dialogue with the Islamic Courts, Frazer said.
The U.N. Security Council expects the African force to deploy within 30 days, Frazer said.
(USINFO is produced by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)
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What do you expect to happen that having MRE's and survival gear will help?
Nonsense. al Qaida has no wish for outright governance. They simply need a safe haven from which to operate and attack us. Take Afghanistan for example. It was the Taliban, not al Qaida, that ruled that nation. They simply provided Osama and his organization a free hand to plan terror. The situaiton in Somalia seems similar. Hence why that area needs to be "fumigated." But ZERO NONE ZIP NADA plans of nation building.
bump!
The enemy is resolute.
We are....well, we are not.
We splinter more and more as a nation, on a daily basis.
What do you think it will take,knowing that 9/11 didn't do it?
Anything short of millions dead?
Okay, I understand....and, you're correct.
lets not forget that while we bleed billions
they have a book ak47s and unlimited foot soldiers
something to be said about low tech military
ds/allowing for petrodollar foreign aid but still
The real question is, What do you think the enemy will think it will take,knowing that 9/11 didn't do it?
They don't think like that.
They just want us all dead.
Even if it takes a hundred years.
Even if thay die trying.
Yes, as long as the only boots on the ground are those that return to earth with the rest of bomb debris.
Seems to me that some of these disputes need to be fought out. What have we accomplished by suppressing the fights in the name of stabiity? I think NATO is supporting the African Union force in Darfur. Neighboring Ethiopia is whooping Somiali al Quaeda. Why should we send corn fed blue eyed devils in where they don't belong?
We could lend air support.
But we're to timid to even use it properly in Iraq, so...watch and wait.
And prepare.
Our troops are not needed in Somalia or Darfur....
Modern and very powerful munitions falling from 30,000 feet would be helpful....and overdue.
Semper Fi
If two cases is a stockpile, me, too.
I really need to do something for a medium term answer. Say, 3-4 months worth of food. I generally know what to do, I just need to do it.
That says it for me, except I hope it doesn't require multiple millions.
I've been saying for some time, that it's going to take another event, an order of magnitude worse than 9/11, to really wake us up. I am not at all happy about this.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
we should be giving arms to Ethiopia...lots of them and letting them clean up their backyard
I'm fortunate enough to live in the Appalachians. My back property line is a trout stream, and I'm surrounded by woods. I have well water and a septic tank with a seepage field. There's plenty of deer and turkey around.
You might want water purification tablets and potasium iodide tablets (KU)
And a manual can opener!
We are.
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