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The French will do anything to deny that English is indeed the international language.
1 posted on 12/11/2006 1:58:32 AM PST by Mrs Ivan
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To: Mrs Ivan
Globish: Yoo hoo. You are?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 12/11/2006 2:02:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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French envy explosion alert...


4 posted on 12/11/2006 2:11:49 AM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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Globish is a simple, pragmatic form of English codified by Jean-Paul Nerrière, a retired vice-president of IBM in the United States.

Funny, when I was in school, that was called "pidgin." I guess "pidgin" couldn't be trademarked to sell books and take a swipe at Anglophones. None of this is new, and none of it is rocket science.

Simple words, simple sentence structure, hand gestures where they help, and maybe a few words of French, Spanish or the local language if you know them and they help. Avoid jokes and especially sarcasm, because they don't translate. When I was in Thailand, I fell into it in a day or two.

It's fine for telling a cab driver where to go or ordering a meal, but I don't see a 1,500 word vocabulary being sufficient for complex business dealings.

5 posted on 12/11/2006 2:23:08 AM PST by ReignOfError
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The program checks English words and eliminates those not included in the 1,500-strong Globish list.

There was a passage in Orwells classic book "1984" where the IngSocs were boasting of the fact that their language was actually losing words each year.

Leave it to the French to be proud of doing just that.

L

6 posted on 12/11/2006 2:25:15 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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“One thing you never do in Globish is tell a joke."

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

7 posted on 12/11/2006 2:25:44 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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He confirms what I always suspected: They all understand English, if you speak loudly and slowly enough. Even the French. Now, if only the Brits...


9 posted on 12/11/2006 2:33:34 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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Here in Slovakia, I teach English conversation in private and company lessons.
English is the international business language, and there is a great demand for native speakers.
I can find all the work I want.


20 posted on 12/11/2006 3:18:44 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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The French will do anything to deny that English is indeed the international language.

We have noticed this for generations. I had a French teacher in high school who always claimed in every class that French would be the global language. My wife had a French teacher who claimed the same. Both had roots in Quebec, and naturally both claimed to speak a Parisian French. The students of course laughed at them. I live about a five hour drive to Montreal, yet have not heard French spoken in decades. Despite French being one of the official Air Traffic Control languages, I have not heard it very much when I listen to BOS's Tower.

A demonstration of its acceptance can be seen on newsgroup discussions. Someone posts a question in French, from Wannadoo.FR, and waits for an answer. And waits. And waits. Oh well, Esperento advocates said the same things.

At a guess I suspect IT and the Internet had a role to play in this; the timing correlates.

For example, years ago, I had some Russian hobby magazines ("Model Builder"). It had a monthly section, "Your Home Computer", showing a crude 1920's style line drawing of an enthusiast in rapture, sitting in front of a 1950's style rounded-corner terminal.

So...the article would go on about the monthly little recipe database project, etc., and there would be paragraphs in Russian, punctuated here and there with ((RUN)), ((SAVE)), ((LIST)), Etc. because the 8080 CPU did not care about language advocacy.

21 posted on 12/11/2006 3:45:03 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Illegal Immigrant": The Larval form of A Democrat.)
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The French will do anything to deny that English is indeed the international language.

Our enemies continue to attempt to redefine and diminish any aspect of superior culture in order to destroy it altogether.

23 posted on 12/11/2006 3:52:01 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Globish??..sounds like RALPH it....


24 posted on 12/11/2006 4:14:41 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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"deny that English is indeed the international language"


Apparently, the world is a changin. My BIL, who's in internet security, has been learning Chinese. His Wife, in the local school system, is learning Spanish. Of course, they do live in California.


26 posted on 12/11/2006 4:49:00 AM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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Gee, does this mean I can toss all my Wicked phrasebooks?
28 posted on 12/11/2006 5:01:56 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Globish - interesting. I've been speaking this since I was a child and didn't even know it! Growing up in Japan, my brothers and I were frequently approached by school kids who wanted someone nonthreatening to practice their English on. You quickly learn to speak in simple 2nd or 3rd year English.
29 posted on 12/11/2006 5:04:30 AM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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It involves a vocabulary limited to 1,500 words, short sentences, basic syntax,...and extensive hand gestures to get the point across.

It sunds like a hip-hop video if you do away with the idiom restrictions.

30 posted on 12/11/2006 5:05:32 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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The French will do anything to deny that English is indeed the international language.

Doesn't matter. In 20 years there will be no France. I twill have been replaced by the Frankish Islamic Republic.

32 posted on 12/11/2006 5:34:40 AM PST by EricT. (The Republicans got fired for poor performance. 12 years and that's all they did?!?)
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Is Globish the same movement that has people saying:

"dived" instead of "dove"

and adding "s" to anything to make a plural, such as:

"sheep" is now "sheeps"
"aspirin" is now "aspirins"

or is that part of Ebonics?


34 posted on 12/11/2006 5:39:33 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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Him fella-fella want all speakum pidgin, yes?


37 posted on 12/11/2006 6:10:12 AM PST by skepsel
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Taco mon ami?


46 posted on 12/11/2006 6:52:16 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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It appears that the French want the entire world to sound like Jar-Jar Binks.


47 posted on 12/11/2006 7:00:02 AM PST by horse_doc
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Most of my posts are short, but the Globish words convey only 10% of the meaning. 90% of the meaning is carried by Globish hand gestures.


51 posted on 12/11/2006 8:57:17 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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