Posted on 11/27/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by News Hunter
"In God We Trust," the official national motto since 1956 and a familiar sight on U.S. coins and currency, will be hard to find on the new presidential dollar coins scheduled for release to the public Feb. 15, 2007.
The new gold-colored dollar pieces, featuring images of U.S. presidents, will move the inscription from the face of the coin to the thin edge, along with the year and the previous national motto, "E Pluribus Unum," Latin for "Out of Many, One."
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Thank you sir, and prayers for your son's safety! I was asked by a lot of friends how I got through my son's deployment in Iraq: God, prayers and (I'll be honest) sometimes a few glasses of Chardonnay. Prayers for you also regarding the loss of your father. God bless and may He keep Robert and all of our troops safe!
I thank you for your prayers and kind words. I know to what you speak regarding getting through these times. The Chardannay is something I have not yet had to try, but who knows. Please thank your son from my family for his service.
Except the Washington Monument is a couple of hundred feet higher.
Go figure.
After reading your post, I just said a prayer for Robert's safety and the safety of his fellow soldiers. I'm sure this Thanksgiving was difficult enough without your Dad there, and knowing Robert was back in the "Sandbox".
I said a prayer for you too. Stay strong.
[groups don't have rights- only individuals]
So let me get this right- your individual rights trump my rights and the rights of the moral majority? We're not talking about 'groups' here- we're talking abotu a majority of INDIVIDUALS that far outnumber those who want to trample their individualistic rights to expression of freedom.
Also- I guess where you don't beleive anyone will have the right to expressions of faith that you'll be targeting Muslims as weill and making sure they tow your 'no God' line then right? Yeah- didn't thrink so
Fierce Allegience [I think you may have just dethroned Al Baby as having FRs worst-typed sentence ever.]
I berliveve you're right. http://sacredscoop.com
I thank you for those prayers. This Thanksgiving was difficult. We were able to get through because of our FRiends here. My strength comes from prayers provided by people like you. Thanks, and God Bless.
Me too.
The basic premise of an indivisual right is that they don't trump each other. Otherwise that would involve someone initiating the use of force against another.
A "group" is not a person therefore it cannot have rights. A group of individuals can (and should) stand together to defend their rights but again those are no different then those of a solitary individual.
Going back to the original premise of this thread, the Constitution allows the government the coercive use of force to steal the wealth of it's citizens in order to print paper and press medal.
The government (and the majority that authorizes it) is STEALING my money and doing things with it that I don't want it to do. What's the difference between that a what a common thief does on the street? Oh wait, 51% of OTHER people says it's ok...and that somehow makes it right?
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL FROM ANYONE! Why is my point so unclear? That's the same logic when you can proclaim that a "right" to healthcare doesn't exist, it's taking money from one group (I can stop there) and giving it to another.
As for Muslims, this is the way I see it. I refuse to follow them, my head gets separated from my soldiers. Opposing this is simple. If I oppose the government I won't be much better off...Muslims try to bang down my door telling me to convert or die or the Feds bang down down my door telling me to pay up or go to prison. Yes there is a difference but my point remains that they are both violators of individual rights and those who say otherwise are just enabling them.
"Last time I checked, the United States was governed by majority rule"
No it is not. We are a representative republic. That is what shields us from the tyranny of the majority.
Where did you get the curious idea that "majority rules?"
Raymann raymann raymann- how did this go from the issue of printing 'in God We Trust' in coins, which you objected to because you are a non beleiver and don't think anyone should have the right to express their faith- even the government, to the government stealing our money? Did I miss somethign along the way?
The majority of INDIVIDUALS i nthis country want htose words written on our currency- but it appears that those in the minority who don't follow God on't think that Christians hsould ask God's blessings on this nation and honor Him by printing in God we trust on our money- the government is doing things with our money that a majority of individuals do want- but you want your wantsa to trump our wants. The majority of poeple also belvieve the governments handling of maoney keeps the economy being maintained by peopel who have studied far more than we have, and thus know how to manage more better than we do.
Tell ya what- if you don't like that- just start printing your own money- without 'in God we Trust' of course. j/k http://sacredscoop.com
Yes it is- or more appropriately' majority vote' The eyes have it!
"(apologies if you're not a "Seinfeld" fan)"
Watched 2 episodes or so. Never laughed once. Saw a few more on some plane flights. Same deal.
I guess you have to appreciate New York humor.
I'll gladly take in any coinage that atheists find offensive. Now if only they'd slap that fine "In God We Trust" on $100 bills!
Why should be bother to accomdate the minority again? Suck it up and deal with or move to an atheist nation.
Exactly. If atheists truly did not believe in God, they would simply dismiss such discussions with the same ease as one would a discussion about the Tooth Fairy. Instead, you find the typical athiest to be more of an anti-theist, somebody angry at God, hating on God, hating on people who believe in God.
That doesn't in anyway eliminate your flawed original premise.
"Yes it is- or more appropriately' majority vote' The eyes have it!"
No, you are once again wrong. Some things are indeed voted on and the majority (in some cases a plurality and in some cases a majority and in extreme cases a super-majority) wins.
But not in all cases, nor do we make many decisions based on voting. And, of course, our President is not elected by majority vote.
I've been serving for 23 years in the Army (as of this coming January) and have loved almost every minute of it. And, moreover, for entirely selfish reasons. I love this country. I love our way of life. I love that my family can enjoy the freedom this country offers. I love knowing that my son respects our flag and knows the sacrifices servicemen make to keep this country free and safe.
These are purely selfish reasons. There is a distinct difference between irrational selfishness (near-sighted, short term) and rational selfishness (long term). Most rationally selfish people will see the personal (self) value of preserving this great nation for their benefit and that of their loved ones (also purely selfish).
The term selfishness has been tarnished by the leftists/statists to mean anything that is even slightly for the benefit of one person as being bad and ammoral. If something, like serving this great country, means so much to ME that I'm willing to put my life on the line for 23 years, it must mean something to me- therefore because I'm selfish I've been a soldier. If this country meant nothing to me and I still wore the uniform, I'd be doing the selfless act for something that holds no importance to me.
I do prefer to have "in God we trust" on our money, but I find preserving the Constitution profoundly more important. I love this forum for discussing different points of view.
I also spent many months (out of almost 13 years of being in Europe) at Hohenfels and Grafenwoehr. My favorite exercises were the NATO exercises with the other services. We'd always gripe about the other militaries being able to have long hair and pot-bellies, which became apparent disadvantages in real missions... ;-)
Have a great evening.
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