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To: Raymann

[groups don't have rights- only individuals]

So let me get this right- your individual rights trump my rights and the rights of the moral majority? We're not talking about 'groups' here- we're talking abotu a majority of INDIVIDUALS that far outnumber those who want to trample their individualistic rights to expression of freedom.

Also- I guess where you don't beleive anyone will have the right to expressions of faith that you'll be targeting Muslims as weill and making sure they tow your 'no God' line then right? Yeah- didn't thrink so

Fierce Allegience [I think you may have just dethroned Al Baby as having FRs worst-typed sentence ever.]

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205 posted on 11/27/2006 6:51:26 PM PST by CottShop
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To: CottShop

The basic premise of an indivisual right is that they don't trump each other. Otherwise that would involve someone initiating the use of force against another.

A "group" is not a person therefore it cannot have rights. A group of individuals can (and should) stand together to defend their rights but again those are no different then those of a solitary individual.

Going back to the original premise of this thread, the Constitution allows the government the coercive use of force to steal the wealth of it's citizens in order to print paper and press medal.

The government (and the majority that authorizes it) is STEALING my money and doing things with it that I don't want it to do. What's the difference between that a what a common thief does on the street? Oh wait, 51% of OTHER people says it's ok...and that somehow makes it right?

YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL FROM ANYONE! Why is my point so unclear? That's the same logic when you can proclaim that a "right" to healthcare doesn't exist, it's taking money from one group (I can stop there) and giving it to another.

As for Muslims, this is the way I see it. I refuse to follow them, my head gets separated from my soldiers. Opposing this is simple. If I oppose the government I won't be much better off...Muslims try to bang down my door telling me to convert or die or the Feds bang down down my door telling me to pay up or go to prison. Yes there is a difference but my point remains that they are both violators of individual rights and those who say otherwise are just enabling them.


208 posted on 11/27/2006 7:17:04 PM PST by Raymann
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