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1 posted on 11/21/2006 12:14:55 PM PST by presidio9
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"The Republicans are here to concentrate the wealth of our country in the top 1 percent, and all the power that comes with that is at the expense of the middle class and those striving to be in the middle class — and that's just plain wrong," Pelosi said in a conference call the day after the election

This from a multi-millionaire who hires non-union labor. Do as I say, not as I do.

2 posted on 11/21/2006 12:16:50 PM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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This was a good article. Thank you for posting it.

Webb is right about the economic issues.
Dead right.
The Republican model is skewed towards the top.
The Democrat model has been skewed towards the bottom.

Politicially, the right thing to do is skew the tax structure and job security towards the middle.


4 posted on 11/21/2006 12:22:44 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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"That's why we need to get a progressive economic agenda out there."

Bolshevism is plenty progressive. It's been Progressive for 90 years! How much more Progress do you want?? Resdistribution of Wealth, Class War, Political Elite leading the Proletariat ... It's all good, bro'. We'll catch up to Cuba one of these days.

7 posted on 11/21/2006 12:25:41 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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Oh, so he's a Marxist who thinks we need to redistribute income huh?? Hey Senator Elect Pervert, here's a hint: Let in 12 million illegal aliens and encourage rampant illegitimacy through our welfare policies and you're going to naturally create income disparities between those who play by the rules and those who don't. Don't blame the producers for that. Blame society's illegals, misfits and short-sighted.


14 posted on 11/21/2006 12:33:32 PM PST by MikeA (Where's the media to call the elections a "temper tantrum" by America like they did in 1994?)
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Below was a posting that I wrote last week when responding to another Freeper.

The Northern Pacific States have Microsoft, Boeing and tourism. The same goes for California. Texas has energy, tourism and shipping. Nevada has gambling. Florida has tourism and great weather; Chicago, the epicenter of finance and marketing. The Eastern seaboard has shipping, fishing, government, tourism … etc.

What does the Midwest have? Good weather year round, hell no! Pretty girls skating down the boardwalk on a beautiful February afternoon, hell no! Movie industry jobs, nope! How about agriculture? That too has been erased.

The problem is that the Midwest made things, but because of globalization those skills are no longer needed. Hence the powers that be are trying to substitute with the insurance, medical and bio-tech fields. Those noble professions still are not providing the stimulus to grow the regions economy. So what does an underemployed populace do? They go to the ballot box and vote themselves a raise. I am in absolute disagreement of this, but it is in effect what is happening. Ohio, PA, IN, IL and New York will become more blue because of the afore mentioned.

Reagan figured this out and by him spending heavily on defense; a lot of those dollars were spent in the Midwest, which garnered him a win in 84. The rest as they say is history.

Remember, all politics are local and people vote their pocketbook.

The recovery that most this nation has experienced has not come to the Midwest and actually has come at the expense of this regions economy. Regretfully, the GOP has over estimated the Midwest Social Conservatives loyalty to the GOP. It may result in the Presidents impeachment, time will tell


15 posted on 11/21/2006 12:34:18 PM PST by mr_hammer (Pro-life, Pro-gun, Pro-military, Pro-borders, Limited Govn't will win in 08!)
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"Class lines? Mr. Webb is a man who has railed against the "collectivist taming" of American culture by Marxists and has served in the Reagan administration. So why is he talking like Eugene Debs?"

Typical "Nation" writer. Can't imagine someone caring about the issue not being a Marxist.

But that strategy will work only if the Democrats can enforce real party discipline and prevent socially conservative Dems from defecting on key issues such as... immigration.

Ol' Karl Rove will not be remembered for his biggest and most unlikely success...stampeding liberals to support "comprehensive" immigration reform by playing upon their feelings of superiority and need to hate conservatives.

16 posted on 11/21/2006 12:34:30 PM PST by Shermy
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>>"blood-and-soil conservative"<<

If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious. You can take the Democrat out of the socialism but you can't take the socialism out of the Democrat.

19 posted on 11/21/2006 12:36:56 PM PST by Muleteam1 (When one continues to argue with a fool, there are two fools.)
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The economy is hotter than Catherine Zeta Jones.

What are these people talking about?


24 posted on 11/21/2006 12:41:21 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Fear the Sweater vest! Go Buckeyes)
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economic inequality.

If he wants to talk about socialism, why doesn't he just come out and say it? That's what unionism is today. Maybe that isn't what it always was, maybe there was a need in the beginning of the industrial revolution, but unions have long since out lived their usefulness.

25 posted on 11/21/2006 12:41:45 PM PST by Eva
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i'm not sure how the blacks, latinos and single women who lose their jobs at the wal-mart due to increased minimum wages will see any benefits.


29 posted on 11/21/2006 12:44:04 PM PST by mmmRamen (i could use a clever tagline)
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I won't comment on the article, but I will note that my brother, who used to work for the RNC, has been sending top Republicans emails for two years warning them that they were going to lose their majority over economic issues, not Iraq. They seriously expected to hold on to blue collar Republicans and Reagan Democrats who were having to work three jobs to keep from losing their homes because of $3.50 a gallon gas, skyrocketing mortgage rates and utility bills, doubled credit card minimum payments, and new laws designed to make it harder even to declare bankruptcy? How Bush could have appointed someone to head the Fed without getting an ironclad guarantee of no more interest rate hikes before the election is beyond me. I am a dyed-in-the-wool conservative whose late father founded our county's Republican party, but even I was furious about my ARM, which was the only thing I could get due to being self-employed. In the past four years, my mortgage payment rose by nearly $500 a month thanks to the Fed "helping" me by preventing inflation, defined by Alan Greenspan as his paranoia that anybody other than him might be earning a dime more than he did 10 years ago. Meanwhile, the GOP Congress was spending money like drunken sailors on a three-day shore leave.

I voted Republican, but only because I knew the alternative was even worse, not because the current Congress gave me any reason to reelect them. Unfortunately, other voters were harder to convince. If the Pubbies ever want to get back into power again, they'd better rediscover their principles, start acting like conservatives, and come up with policies that reward average Americans for working hard. Trying to convince someone that the economy is booming by pointing at the Dow when the person you're talking to is having his house foreclosed on is not a formula for winning elections.

34 posted on 11/21/2006 12:46:08 PM PST by HHFi
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IMO: If the federal minimum wage is raised above $6.00 I believe that rather than one person less per shift, and Ma and Pa working more weekends instead of the manger covering, that small businesses will close. I know in WA. some large franchises have cut the number of stores in an area due to higher state mandated minimum wages. (Example Wnedy's in Spokane.).

Finally I think the Congress currently in lame duck status should have increased the federal minimum wage to $5.50 or $5.75 (probably phased in over two jumps a couple of years apart) to take the issue off the table, but what do I know.?
39 posted on 11/21/2006 12:49:28 PM PST by thinkthenpost
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productivity gains continue to be captured by the wealthiest 1 percent

Of course, because they have invested the most in the economy.

75 posted on 11/21/2006 1:13:49 PM PST by My2Cents
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Later read.


135 posted on 11/21/2006 3:02:05 PM PST by wjcsux (The Republicans are disappointing, the DemosRATs are dangerous- Dr. Sowell)
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
Winston Churchill


138 posted on 11/21/2006 3:09:56 PM PST by wjcsux (The Republicans are disappointing, the DemosRATs are dangerous- Dr. Sowell)
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There are a few TROLLS on this thread. I am for the flat tax....everyone pays the SAME rate. What could be more FAIR than that!


140 posted on 11/21/2006 3:21:11 PM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans Unite!!!!! Draft Fred Thompson in 08')
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There is something to this. To put a conservative twist on it, many feel squeezed by rising housing prices, rising property tax valuations and bills, and the recent run of high gas prices. Moreover, Bush's and the Republican spendthrift ways in Congress prompted s sense of envy as to why the bounty was not spread wider. And perhaps worst of all, Bush pressed bad and unpopular measures for the sake of illegal immigrants while neglecting control of the borders and the bread and butter issues faced by the general public. American politics will take a left turn unless the next GOP Presidential nominee makes a strong case for low taxes, jobs and prosperity, budget restraint, and border control.
144 posted on 11/21/2006 3:43:46 PM PST by Rockingham
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Thre are very few who figure out how to use capital, instead of just labor, to advance their economic position.

The capitalists create jobs that empower the many to use their labor instead of just living in abject poverty.

IMO that's a fair trade but not a free trade. The cost is income disparity wrongly publicized as 'exploitation' by a resurgent Marxist media.


BUMP

183 posted on 11/22/2006 5:02:01 AM PST by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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Everyone wants Virginia's Senator-elect Jim Webb to talk about Iraq...

"Everyone"...

So typical of leftists (The Nation ragazine).

They consider themselves to be the entire universe of people.

I'd rather see Webb just shut his pie-hole, and stop his endless class warfare against the productive people of America.

255 posted on 11/23/2006 4:00:06 AM PST by Edit35
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Yet if there's going to be a center-left majority in this country, its electoral strength is going to rest on a coalition bound by a shared interest in economic justice.

What the vast majority of people reading this article seem to miss is that the purpose of this article is to provide a rationale for the Democrats to claim a "mandate" on economic issues. The article itself is thinly-disguised fiction. But if the last vote was only about Iraq, then Pelosi and the nuts can't start raising taxes. So the MSM needs a bunch of articles about how this is about more than just the war, so she can raise taxes, claiming that's what people voted for.

Jim Webb didn't win because of his economic policy. Not one bit. But the MSM will be happy to lie about it to create a mandate...

264 posted on 11/25/2006 8:01:33 AM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwæt! Lãr biþ mæst hord, soþlïce!)
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