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Elderly Man Gets Probation for Deadly Santa Monica Market Crash
Associated Press Via Fox News ^ | Monday, November 20, 2006

Posted on 11/20/2006 11:40:52 AM PST by Wiggins

LOS ANGELES — An elderly man who killed 10 people and injured more than 70 others when he drove through an outdoor farmers market was sentenced Monday to probation by a judge who said he believed the crime deserved imprisonment but the defendant was too ill.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: georgerussellweller; georgeweller; masskillerwalks; santamonica
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To: American Quilter

I hope you forgive her that it was a Democrat White House at the time. :)


81 posted on 11/20/2006 1:32:08 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory

Not me--I was brought up to respect my very very elderly elders. Ann, the younger (96) sister, was still reading her copy of "The Nation" with great enjoyment. I had to resist the temptation to hide it and replace it with a copy of "American Spectator".


82 posted on 11/20/2006 1:35:55 PM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Are you saying it couldn't be an accident? Or are you saying that even if it was an accident, the driver should be punished? Maybe he should be executed? Maybe anybody involved in such a terrible accident should be executed, as well?


83 posted on 11/20/2006 1:37:05 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Dallas59

One more example why drivers over 70 should have to requalify every year.


84 posted on 11/20/2006 1:44:08 PM PST by glorgau
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To: La Enchiladita
Yeah, killing 10 people and maiming dozens of others is no big deal. You betcha. Just an accident.

It is a big deal. It is also an accident. What purpose is punishment of this guy supposed to serve? To keep other people from having accidents?

85 posted on 11/20/2006 1:45:36 PM PST by Ramius
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To: rottndog

Punishment by outcome is what Soviet courts did. Justice is considering the motivations.

It might be justice to send this guy to prison but you get there by talking about his intentions, capabilities and choices. Not the body count.


86 posted on 11/20/2006 1:47:57 PM PST by CGTRWK
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To: Continental Soldier; Ramius

A jury of his peers convicted Weller of 10 counts of manslaughter with gross negligence, not for having an "accident." By law, the sentence could have been prison time. The judge opted otherwise.

Read post #67 and read it carefully. Also, keep these visual images firmly in mind: A dead body across your windshield and another beneath your tires.



87 posted on 11/20/2006 1:51:33 PM PST by La Enchiladita (I will chill out when I'm dead . . .)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

"the people will rise up and take care of business".

I suppose it used to be that way. Sadly, today it is even impossible to get people to rise up and vote. About 40 - 50 % of eligible voters never even bother. I find it hard to believe that these same people will see assuring justice in sentencing as anything that concerns them at all.


88 posted on 11/20/2006 1:55:45 PM PST by ga medic
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To: La Enchiladita

What, like it isn't obviously tragic and traumatic? Of course it is. I don't get your point.

My point is about pretending that there can be "justice" in a situation such as this. Sometimes justice is just out of reach. What do you want, life in prison? Whoopeee... maybe a whole couple of years. Death penalty? Likewise, this man's life is largely behind him, and no amount of bloodthirst on behalf of "justice" will take that away either.

Maybe the punishment should be visited on his children instead? At least they might live long enough to be able to suffer long enough to satisfy our need for revenge.


89 posted on 11/20/2006 2:01:34 PM PST by Ramius
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To: Ramius

Those are all your words, your hysteria. I pointed out facts.


90 posted on 11/20/2006 2:04:31 PM PST by La Enchiladita (I will chill out when I'm dead . . .)
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To: La Enchiladita

Yeah, I'm just hysterical. That 'splains it. LOL.


91 posted on 11/20/2006 2:09:13 PM PST by Ramius
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To: lawdude

In Arizona, I have had the "pleasure" of providing care to a man who raped and murdered a 7 year old in our community because our hospital has the "prison contract". This was for two cataract surgeries and a prostate resection. Why should he be able to see when his victim is dead and her family suffers daily, I don't know.


92 posted on 11/20/2006 2:17:30 PM PST by az wildkitten
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To: La Enchiladita

Images of damage and death are always ugly. In this case, the judge was right.


93 posted on 11/20/2006 2:41:03 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: NormsRevenge

Amen to you!!!!!!!!


94 posted on 11/20/2006 2:42:23 PM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: Dallas59
"I tried to take the control knob and jam it into park.

What the devil is a "control knob"? A gear shift?

95 posted on 11/20/2006 2:43:13 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Those who call their fellow citizens Sheeple are just ticked they were not chosen as Shepherds)
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To: La Enchiladita; Digger

I think Digger has the answer in post #74.


96 posted on 11/20/2006 2:45:06 PM PST by livius
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To: Wiggins

"Oh Magoo, You've Done It Again!"


97 posted on 11/20/2006 2:47:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: American Quilter

Excellent story. I think you're right, it is often easier if it comes from someone outside the family, especially somebody who's sort of an authority figure. Otherwise I think it can often become a contest of wills which the elderly person feels he can't afford to lose.


98 posted on 11/20/2006 2:48:39 PM PST by livius
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To: American Quilter
A quick check only indicates these conditions in Indiana: "A license is valid for six years if issued to those ages 18 to 75, three years if issued to those ages 75 to 85, and two years if issued to those ages 85 and up."

A 2004 article says, Indiana dropped a road test requirement for older drivers in 1998 after its Bureau of Motor Vehicles decided it didn't have the authority to single out older Hoosiers.

It's anyone's guess what the requirements were prior.

99 posted on 11/20/2006 2:56:59 PM PST by newzjunkey (Speaker Pelosi thanks cannibalistic conservatives for her victory.)
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To: FourtySeven
Local talk show hosts have speculated that he sped off not to avoid paying, but because he panicked that his license would be taken away. Had he pulled over to sort out his fender bender, ten lives would have been spared, including the sister of a friend.
100 posted on 11/20/2006 2:58:31 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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