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To: Excellence

IMO, Rush didn't help with his Michael J. Fox scenario. That was in very poor taste and I expected more from Rush.


12 posted on 11/08/2006 8:53:39 AM PST by sarasota
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To: sarasota

MJF was revealed. Rush did the right thing.


16 posted on 11/08/2006 8:54:56 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: sarasota

At least the lady from Missouri thanked Rush personally.


28 posted on 11/08/2006 8:58:14 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: sarasota

Whatever you do -- don't criticize any of the Dems favorite "victims" --- Rush was proved right!!

When the MSM comes out with those "mean and nasty" repubs -- shut up and run!!


49 posted on 11/08/2006 9:01:59 AM PST by acsrp38 (Found: WMD Saddam didn't have before he didn't have them)
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To: sarasota

In talking to a lot of conseratives, they were furious with the video of Rush imiatating MJF. It was the icing on the DEMS cake, if you ask me and I think Rush jumped the shark on that one.


81 posted on 11/08/2006 9:06:36 AM PST by Toespi
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To: sarasota

I heard every word Rush said about Fox and saw the video. He didn't say anything out of line. Fox is a liar and a disgusting person for manipulating his disability to sell a cloning amendment as a stem cell amendment. If you knew the whole story you wouldn't say what you did.


97 posted on 11/08/2006 9:09:39 AM PST by TexasPatriot8 (Issues don't matter, lies are ok, liberals are in control,& Conservative non-votes did it. Good job.)
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To: sarasota

Rant warning...

Poor taste?... he was telling the truth, you know... what no one else was telling? He should have shut up about a fake cloning ban bill that actually permits cloning and sets it up that even the government can't interfere.

You don't get it... the last thing this is for is helping people... it's for preventing the disabled and reaching perfection (small g gods). They don't provide cures, adult does... many of us know that.

If the private sector didn't put money in and wants the government to pay for somatic cell transfer, it's not about embryonic stem cells period... but cloning. Why would they want to fund that? Think about the players with money on this... The Stowers Institute doesn't want to save anyone, neither does Planned Parenthood... this is about harvesting.. and not just eggs (by the way, how will they obtain them?, think about it); Not only that organs.

Why would one biotech firm give 97% of $29 mil for this amendment when there are no cures or even one evidence of progress under the lie of embryonic stem cell research? In fact, there are problems... you can't control the growth of ESCs and tumors/death follows... but the MSM will not tell you that.

MJ Fox was at the same Parkinson's Conferences/Symposiums I attended (recently in D.C. a couple months ago), his foundation gave a mil to blood cord research because it's shown unparellel gains in Parkinson's, he knows this, that's why I knew he couldn't have read it... he was taken advantage of. That's unpardonable... period.

Do you know I had a friend that died in a study at Columbia that didn't hit the press? ESCs inserted into the brain to treat Parkinson's, the tumor grew so fast he was gone in two weeks. No one cared... it was a study... hushed up. Had it not been for another close friend with second stage in the study as well, who would know?

Just ask yourself, if it's about ESCs as they claim, private funding is not coming in because of no results, professionals have stated that for 15 years they can't even imagine a cure, we have progress in all the diseases on Missouri Cures posts on their websites through adult/cord blood and other stem cells right now... why would they fight so hard against the cells that are working, for the cells that have never worked?

It's no coincidence that bodies/organs are disappearing
from funeral homes (that barely made the press, because Allistar Cooke was involved), in TN hundreds of bodies were dumped instead of cremated, there has been for years a fetal part list at different stages of development for sale to medical labs, medical schools and biotech companies. Why do you think they want 12 year olds to get abortions without permission yet you have to sign for your child to get an aspirin in school?

People need to wake up. It may sound tin hat to you... but it's a horrible fact. When everyone said slippery slope way back, people laughed and said "They're trying to take our freedom away". Freedom isn't license and the throwing off of responsibilities...

If you don't understand, a lot of people obviously don't and it's shouted down as crazy, zealotry or whatever. This is more basic, it's against natural law and everything the being human means.

You see my youngest was in a coma 12 hours when they tried to force me to disconnect her re: first and only seizure, I said no and airvac'd her outta there. Two days later she woke up and she's at school now, the tops of her sixth grade class. BTW, they also wanted to keep her on long enough for organ donation before the disconnect. I have seen things in hospitals (and i've been in plenty, and have many friends that are nurses on cardio/neuro/general wards), you don't want to know. Google Groningen Protocol Netherlands... then it will become clear for you. I could say Hitler's first phase... but people would think it was ridculous... until they start reading. Also google Useless Eaters and get back to me... then i'll tell you who's behind it.

Rant off/


132 posted on 11/08/2006 9:14:41 AM PST by AliVeritas (Get out and vote. Yeah you, at the monitor, get off your duff and vote. Go GOP!)
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To: sarasota

I respectfully disagree. SOMEBODY needs to call the Dems out on this use of human shields in campaigning!


299 posted on 11/08/2006 9:32:31 AM PST by RushCrush (I voted straight ticket GOP here in Chicago!)
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To: sarasota
Rush didn't help with his Michael J. Fox scenario. That was in very poor taste and I expected more from Rush.

Agreed. He was, of course, right on the facts of the ad and the science, but his presentation was clumsy and arrogant originally.

He's far from perfect. As soon as he said it that day they way he firstly did say it, I knew he stepped in it. He should have known better. But insecure Rush/Jeff Christie too often needs to be the center of the story. It was unfortunate the way he addressed it, and he did not help at all. Quite the opposite.

You know, I hesitate to say this for fear of flames, but there are too many here at FR who seem to not understand one important thing. (jmo) That is, that the bombast and the obvious self-righteousness of some of our conservative mouthpieces has a negative effect on our cause. Their arrogance angers the opposition and tends to energize them. It's very true, and it's time for us to admit it and try to find a way for our "spokesmen" to improve just a little. It would only help conservatives and the country.

I'm working now, and must get back to tasks, but this is a very serious subject to me, and I'd wish to talk about it later with anyone who may want to address it.

Just to add one thing ......... my grandfather, who was a very important man at a very prestigious eastern University back at the beginning of the depression. The school wanted to build a huge building on campus back then, the building was to be the second tallest one in the world at the time. Obviously, during those years money was tight, and it took some great persuasion to get leaders of the (financial) community in our city to take part and invest to make it all happen. My grandfather was said to have gotten it done because of his fine, calm temperament. He pulled all these different people together, architects, finance men, University officials, labor folks, etc., all of them with different desires and needs, and he got it done. He was a guy who listened, moderated and then directed effort. It really was quite startling, and he is still my greatest hero.

Too often our conservative spokesmen are DIRECTLY opposite this type of man. With their combativeness and self-righteous posturing they end up making enemies and energizing the opposition instead of influencing others over to our cause.......... which, after all, is what we want.

I know I did not say this too well, but I'm in a hurry to get back to work. But, I felt I had to say it. Talk with you all later hopefully.

418 posted on 11/08/2006 9:46:39 AM PST by beyond the sea ( Now that Nancy Pelosi Galore is in charge, it’s never too late to start drinking.)
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To: sarasota
..IMO, Rush didn't help with his Michael J. Fox scenario. That was in very poor taste and I expected more from Rush....

Sorry, but I don't agree. Rush did nothing wrong. Instead he broke new ground on the tactic's of the Rats to use people with deceases so they could not be challenged. Furthermore, I think M J Fox did a terrible thing injecting politics in the curing of deceases. The "base" supported the GOP.... The independents did not... and for this people, the war was jut too much. Even we have to agree that is not going well...

That said, I think is healthy we all get whatever grievances we have out of our systems :)... I have my share :)

439 posted on 11/08/2006 9:49:11 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: sarasota; MNJohnnie

Actually, that wasn't Rush's fault. Unlike the media personalities who "reported" on what Rush supposedly said, I actually LISTENED to him, and I can tell you for a FACT that they consistently mischaracterized him, accusing him of "mocking" Michael J. Fox. HE NEVER MOCKED FOX -- not once! They did that for about 1-1/2 weeks. What Rush actually did was to shine a light on what Fox was actually saying, and what that 2nd amendment in Missouri actually said. The polls showed that people were actually starting to understand it. If there had been a couple more days before the vote, who knows what would have happened?


1,549 posted on 11/08/2006 12:54:31 PM PST by Purrcival (We may be temporarily down, but we're NOT OUT! Not by a LONG shot!)
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