Posted on 11/07/2006 10:19:51 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
This loss is going to have historical consequences – how much is President Bush to blame for this loss? Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with President Bush and the “Bushbots”?
Bush? Or is it Bush and the RINOs? . . . And worst of all to blame, the fault of what some talk show hosts call the Harriet Myers Storm-trooper crowd of Bushbots who simply would bray like a donkey whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?
Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.
Only in the last couple weeks did Bush start to try to get the message out about the good economy, but the fact is there were many conservatives who kept saying this is a winning message for a long time, if only the Republicans would get serious about getting the message out --- and the reply from the Bushbots was “the DOW and the stock market isn’t the same as the economy”, ignoring that the important message about the economy wasn’t just the stock market but much more.
The Republicans were on a dog and pony show with the “Bushies”, of which some now call the “Bushbots”, and years were wasted with what many now say were idiots who followed someone who never was a conservative anyway. The reality might just start to sink in that Bush just used some conservative lingo to take these idiots for a ride.
Yes, the President was “on track” regarding the war on terrorism – and yes, he and everyone else were correct that this war won’t be over in one or two years. The point being – no, Bush didn’t own the adage that this will not be a short war, but will be a long war, perhaps decades long – and everyone who understood the enemy said the same, and were saying so before even Bush took office in 2000.
In fact, many of these conservatives were saying Usama bin Laden and the Islamic terrorists et all hit the Trade Center once and he was coming back to finish the job, but Bush was too busy running around with Vicente Fox talking amnesty to listen.
But don’t worry, Bush will probably get his amnesty now. No, I’m not talking about the amnesty for Iraqi “insurgents” who killed American soldiers (no amnesty for our soldiers being held for “war crimes?”), no I talking about amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. And one may as well say exactly what we are talking about here – this isn’t about amnesty for illegal aliens from Jamaica, nor Russians, and such – it’s all about illegal aliens from Mexico, which once given will be irreversible, America will not be the same ever again and no one will be able to turn it around once done, because it’s done.
The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.
The funding for the war in Iraq will likely now be cut off, a front in the battle on terrorism of which Bush wasn’t fighting as a “war” against the terrorists anymore – yes, let me say that President Bush has been doing a good job regarding the war on terrorism so lets just get that out there now - but, it seemed more like he was thinking the war on that particular front was over and he was “building Democracy” and sure didn’t want to accidentally kill any Iraqi civilians in the process because it wouldn’t look good in the New York Times and CNN.
Anyway, for sure the Democrats are going to have the leverage to screw us up on that one and cut and run not just in Iraq but everywhere. If and when the Democrats get there way, which they likely now will, what that tells the world, since Vietnam, and now Iraq which really was a punch drunk easy war as far as any war goes, the message to the world will now be that America can never win another war.
And that is really bad news since a lot of Americans are going to die as a result.
What that means is Iran now runs the region. And billions and billions and billions of dinars will sponsor further terrorism as they dance in the street having defeated the great Satan – and the Islamic terrorist with a likely victory in Iraq will do exactly what they already said they are going to do: they will turn their attention to overthrowing the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.
Pakistan already has the nuclear bomb.
The governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are next on the head-chopping list, of which the Islamic fundamentalists may likely have very good success on instigating the axe. Because, at least Bush did a good job on the war on terrorism, but you can absolutely count on it that if the Democrats are going to call the shots, the region is going to explode; the Islamic terrorist front will be global like no ones business.
The idiots have been saying the war on Iraq fomented more Islamic terrorists.
The fact is, the growth of Islamic terrorism is an historical trend of which was escalating before Iraq, was on the march and would have been as life-size now whether we invaded Iraq or not, in fact likely even more so if their march wasn’t tripped up a bit in old Babylon.
We have a great economy.
But the economy won’t be great after the terrorist hit us again. In fact, when it happens, don’t be surprised how fast you are going to lose your job.
Democrats running the House. Now just watch the war. The war isn’t over. It’s now going to get bigger than ever.
Well, I guess some are saying, with the Dems running things, they take the blame for things, too. The problem with this is, the old media will still blame everything on Bush. So, unless the American people figure out that what is about to happen to America was the fault of the Democrats, then we are in big trouble.
But we were already in big trouble with this election. And a lot of Americans didn’t understand the consequences now, and this will be the same crowd who won’t understand later when everything blows up in our face.
I suppose some are thinking that all I have been doing is the same as the Democrats – to simply blame Bush for everything.
No, I don’t blame Bush for everything. I blame myself. Because, for some reason, I didn’t get involved enough, involved with other conservatives to get the conservative message to Americans.
Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media. As far as I’m concerned, I consider them an enemy of Democracy.
In fact, I consider the Democratic Party an enemy of Democracy.
And, thank you President Bush, since 911 we, America, hasn’t had another major terrorist attack on our soil. I give the President thanks for this. It has been a blessing.
I don’t think this blessing is going to last much longer. Not after tonight.
I'm not convinced he will veto anything at all.
Tonight's losses are low, by historic measures. Go look at Reagan's loss numbers in both Houses, in his sixth year.
First of all, you're talking about who I depise, when this thread started out trashing "BushBots" and you gleefully chimed in?
How utterly hypocritical of you!
And, secondly, you're proving how uninformed you are; the extreme right wing did not win 2004 for Bush; Hispanics did according to none other than Michael Barone.
All that aside, you LOST it for us tonight; do you think the GOP is going to count on you again?
Think again.
And we know how fiscally conservative Democrats are.
/sarc
So do I.
Sorry, it's RINOs like you who lost it for the Party tonight. All of the pandering to the Left ruined the interest conservatives had in the party.
You are the uninformed one if you don't realize the impact that social conservatives had on 2004.
I voted Republican straight down the line. I have a clean conscience, and I'll be able to hold my head high, no matter how bad it gets, because I know I did the right thing tonight. I wonder how many folks who didn't vote Republican (and I don't mean just here, but generally) are going to be able to say the same.
Here's your main problem: WE are the Republican Party; we're made up of lots of people: (realistic) conservatives and moderates and some even liberal Republicans.
We can put together a large enough group to win because of our varied views.
You cannot because, above all else, you will NEVER compromise.
Who needs who?
And frankly, I think real Republicans are sick and tired of being blackmailed by the likes of you all.
No, we wouldn't, because the allies who are with us today would not have stayed with us if we'd 'nuked' anybody, and the Republicans would be even more 'persona non grata' than they were this election.
The Republican turnout was huge. Are you really that ignorant?
Or brains.
With ever post, you prove every word I've said on this thread.
Interest? BS; it's BLACKMAIL.
It's nonsense and faulty to try to compare a presidential election to a midterm election.
And???
Maybe Bushbots were right all along?
If President Bush had the support of all the Republicans who were elected to Congress, this wouldn't have happened.
Bump.
2) Tax cuts were limited by the uncontrolled spending. If government growth and spending would have been properly managed even larger tax cuts would have been possible. I for one and not going to be thankful that the government is only taking 50% of my income.
3) Illegal immigration alone is enough reason to have fired anyone/everyone! The western states are bankrupt, health care has collapsed, law enforcement is under siege, and security is a nightmare!
4) Not driven by polls? Explain the insane support of Arlen Spectre and a host of conservatives that the GOP leadership has crapped on.
Well maybe Harold Ford could count on you!
They certainly aren't going to cut spending!
Let's examine Luke21's state, Arizona.
They relected a democrat governor, and both JD Hayworth and Randy Graf lost. Senator Kyl was reelected.
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