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Pics of shootings and violence today in leftist-controlled Oaxaca (Photo Essay)
El Universal ( Mexico City ) ^ | October 27, 2006 | El Universal Staff Photos

Posted on 10/27/2006 8:57:47 PM PDT by StJacques

These are all from the homepage of the Mexico City newspaper El Universal's web site, I am including translations of the captions provided:

Unknown subjects burn a van of the PRI [Institutional Revolutionary Party], where a shootout supposedly
began in the municipality of Santa Lucia del Camino, Oaxaca
Unknown men shoot at APPO members and reporters in Santa Lucia del Camino, Oaxaca;
a foreign cameraman dies
Unknown men shoot at journalists and members of APPO in the municipality of Santa Lucia;
up to now they report 12 injured and the death of a foreign cameraman
A cameraman, who looks foreign, died as a result of a bullet wound which he received
during one of the shoot-outs recorded in the municipality of Santa Lucia, Oaxaca

My Note: Notice Bandana-Covered APPO Leftists Nearby
A foreign cameraman died today during a shoot-out in the municipality of Santa Lucia
against members of APPO and reporters


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: appo; bang; banglist; borderops; bradleywill; bradwill; brooklyn; indymedia; mexico; oaxaca; violence; williamsburg
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To: StJacques
Coming to the USA in the next 20 years. When you import too many third worlders at once it is impossible for them to assimilate because they don't have to, it will be us who will be expected to accommodate them. Socialism is a failed ideology and the leading cause why the West will be dead in the next 30 years.
61 posted on 10/28/2006 9:53:07 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: ARA
This is why we should close our effing borders... I don't want this shit in my country...

Spend some time..if you dare..between Sasabe and the Ajo highway along AZ 286. This goes on all the time...right NOW!

62 posted on 10/28/2006 10:27:17 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: texastoo
"The red shirts are anarchists. This is not a Mexican revolution"

The red shirts are apparently policemen acting on their own. I'm going to put something up in just a sec.
63 posted on 10/28/2006 10:35:53 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: DaoPian; Alia; Kitten Festival; conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; ...
Okay everyone, this is a followup with information about the guys photographed, since so many people have asked questions about who they are. They are local policemen of the municipality of Santa Lucia del Camino which I believe lies on the outskirts of Oaxaca City (not sure, but likely).

A smaller version of the following pic is up on the El Universal homepage:





Here is the translation of the caption, and I will preface this with a note that a "Chapulin" is a "Great Green Bush Cricket" though in Mexican slang it also means "kid":

They have been denounced as: Juan Carlos Soriano Velasco (red t-shirt), a policeman nicknamed "El Chapulin," Manuel Aguilar (dark coat), personal head of the municipality, and Avel (sic) Santiago Zárate (red shirt) Regent of Public Security

Remember everyone; these guys are the police trying to retake control of their town and, especially I would think, to protect local businesses which were seized by APPO yesterday. Remember, APPO permits photographers to photograph anyone who attacks them, but they do not permit photographers to photograph them. They threw out the Univision staff a couple of weeks back.

There is also a news note up that Vicente Fox is sending "federal forces" to Oaxaca, but I've seen reports like this before and I'm going to watch it a little more carefully before I post anything on it.
64 posted on 10/28/2006 11:03:17 AM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thank you for posting the updates. The US press is so preoccupied bashing Bush and all Republicans for the elections that they can't be bothered to report this.


65 posted on 10/28/2006 11:32:52 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: StJacques
That foreign journalist killed in Oaxaca was Brad Will, New York Documentary Filmmaker and Indymedia Reporter. He was allegedly assassinated by a Mexican government supporter. View more reports and a photo slide show on this site. The violence in Oaxaca is linked to "civil unrest" by Vincente Fox. The locals point to corrupt local officials linked to the drug cartels.

This is the type of violence we are importing into America by our open border policy. Note that Bush signed the "Build a Fence" legislation. But there is no money allocated by Congress to build the fence.

66 posted on 10/28/2006 11:36:02 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan
This is the type of violence we are importing into America by our open border policy. Note that Bush signed the "Build a Fence" legislation. But there is no money allocated by Congress to build the fence.

Not quite. This type of violence is classic Western Marxist "revolution" long seen for years deliberately being stirred up in unstable countries by the left.

And "importing"? As a matter of fact, the American indymedia "journalist" was exporting leftist organization and propaganda tactics from NYC to Mexico... a self-professed "anarchist" who had also been in Brazil last year trying to do the same and prior to that was in NYC for the GOP convention on the violence watch lists. There is indymedia and che graffiti all over Oaxaca with the "A" in APPO nicely circled in the style favored by our own home-grown anarchist anti-American lefties.

67 posted on 10/28/2006 12:42:43 PM PDT by Tamzee (If you got 75 or 80% of what you were asking for... you take it & fight for the rest later - Reagan)
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To: StJacques
It's anarchy, pure and simple.

Which is exactly what they have been trying to achieve. Note the circled A evident in much of their graffiti and propaganda...

I have been greatly appreciating your updates and detailed explanations on the activity there, and also have been following Mark for a while (you're right, he's a fantastic resource and right there on scene). He mentioned on another site that the teachers have largely dropped out of this "protest" and there are only approximately 10,000 teachers left in the union versus an original number of about 70,000. He said that this was mainly due from disgust at the violence and that organized outside thugs are now controlling the "teacher protest".

68 posted on 10/28/2006 12:53:09 PM PDT by Tamzee (If you got 75 or 80% of what you were asking for... you take it & fight for the rest later - Reagan)
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To: Tamzee
Thank you for the kind words Tamzee.

I just posted an update to the story at:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1727637/posts

I'm going to be keeping an eye on this story as it progresses. Would you like me to ping you when I post?
69 posted on 10/28/2006 1:01:58 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: texastoo

Seems to me that Salzman and his "gang" at the OSAG should be worried about all their political activism. I've heard he is "a harmless old man".


70 posted on 10/28/2006 1:21:58 PM PDT by DaoPian
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To: StJacques

I would very much appreciate being on your ping list, thanks, a very worrisome situation and your posts are immensely valuable.

The update and images are terrific, as usual, am again grateful for your info...


71 posted on 10/28/2006 1:49:33 PM PDT by Tamzee (If you got 75 or 80% of what you were asking for... you take it & fight for the rest later - Reagan)
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To: FreedomPoster

Sorry, that was the pic html link.

http://www.markinmexico.blogspot.com/

was where the story was.


72 posted on 10/28/2006 3:06:31 PM PDT by endthematrix (I enjoy grilled steak, domestic beer on tap and pinup calendars. Yup, I'm American!)
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To: StJacques

I wonder if the red shirts are worn by communist organizers to identify themselves as "ones who must be obeyed" to the unwashed proletariat. Any thoughts?


73 posted on 10/28/2006 3:11:57 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: SaltyJoe
Ooops, there's an eye witness to the pants theft:

A common occurrence in many third world countries. When there is a bad traffic accident for instance, people come running. They come not to assist the injured people but to loot and steal anything they can get their hands on while the victims are disabled.

74 posted on 10/28/2006 3:24:25 PM PDT by One_American
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To: StJacques; Tamzee; All
Well, looky here: The Villager, September 28-29 2006

"Brad Will, 34, a veteran former East Village squatter and activist now living in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, said he was disturbed to hear from friends that his photo was among those shown on “Nightline.” In addition, he said, a waiter friend of his at an East Village restaurant, reported that while taking an order on Aug. 30 she noticed some detectives at a table flipping through photos, one of which was Will’s.

“She said, ‘Watch out, they’re following you,’ ” Will said. “It made me nervous."

75 posted on 10/28/2006 3:32:50 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: DaoPian

Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, and Ortega have alot to do with this. And, indirectly, so do Russia and China.


77 posted on 10/28/2006 5:57:58 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Kitten Festival

Thank you for that explanation! It is much clearer to me now, and, yes, I think you're right - the MSM would never want to cover what is essentially a violent power struggle among leftists.


78 posted on 10/29/2006 3:24:53 AM PST by livius
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To: OldCorps

See post #58. Red is the color of the PRI (old line leftist party). This is the party of the governor of Oaxaca that the more radical left is trying to displace.


79 posted on 10/29/2006 3:26:44 AM PST by livius
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To: Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; Jack Black; ...
Imagine that a teachers union in Your Town, USA goes on strike. Imagine that they call in the far left - groups like Move On and the people who protested the WTO in Seattle. They take over the center of town. They baracade themselves and force business to close. More and more leftists, some from foreign countires, continue to pour into the city.

Imagine them holding the center of your city for six or more months, the teachers (many having already quit the union) vote to end the strike. The leftist mob will not have it and revs up their rhetoric and machine and promises to smash everything in site. They begin rampaging and burning cars.

The corrupt leftist mayor has refused to move against the "legitimate protesters. The President and Governor have his own reasons for refusing to send in troops to squash the takeover.

Finally, in desperation the patriotic traditional leaders of the community take matters into their own hands. A group of police officers decides to stop the leftists from trashing the city. Guns are taken up and the left is confronted on the streets.

A particularly notorious foreign agitator, one well known to police intelligence as a self-proclaimed Anarchist, is in front of the mob, inciting them. He pulls a black object in front of his face...

Instinctivly the local lawman does what he is trained to do and returns fire: one clean pistol shot to the center of mass.

Not everyone in Mexico is evil. There are many people who just want to make a decent living, raise their children, and run small businesses. At some point these people must either flee the chaos that leftists, including the dead 'photojournalist', are formenting, or fight.

I, for one, refuse to condemn them for fighting.

When I look at these pictures I not only wonder is it out future? I also wonder whether we will have the pride and strength to fight - yes fight - when the next 'million man' leftist action moves beyond slogans and intimidation and into 'the next phase' of leftist revolution.

Baracades, take overs, the end of property rights, intimidation, riots and arson.

You can't stop that with postings or talk radio.

This foreign leftist agitator is finished organizing 'the revolution'.

80 posted on 10/29/2006 11:51:42 AM PST by Jack Black
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